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141. As the Democratic nominee and the representative of the Party, Obama voted for TARP, not Paulson.

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Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:23 PM

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Obama Says Income Gap Is Fraying U.S. Social Fabric [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

Too bad Obama played such a big part in exacerbating it by thowing money at the banks and not chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #1

Too bad DUers wanted to throw people off of unemployment. BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #2

No, DUers John2 Jul 2013 #188

+10000 ^^^This Guy Gets It ! ^^^ FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #3

And too bad he's aggressively pushing for a fast tracked TPP. stillwaiting Jul 2013 #5

Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #7

too bad Krugman is such a tool hfojvt Jul 2013 #65

If he is doing such a great job then don't we just need more of the same? dkf Jul 2013 #78

Yes, ProSense Jul 2013 #79

He needs a new congress for that. dkf Jul 2013 #80

Of course. EVERYTHING is Obama's fault. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #83

Replacing Howard Dean is Obama's fault. dkf Jul 2013 #86

Dean did not want to stay anyway, but that isn't why we lost the House in 2010. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #96

That is so not true. He would have stayed...Obama had no place for him. dkf Jul 2013 #100

No, what Dean is saying about the ACA now is atrocious. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #104

Howard Dean successfully implemented health care reform, he has studied it intensively. dkf Jul 2013 #105

Of course, just because he is a lobbyist now should not affect his credibility. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #106

Say what you will...the guy is a natural truth teller. He can't help it. dkf Jul 2013 #107

Really? Was he telling truth when he said the "Ground Zero Mosque" was "a real affront.. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #109

Bullhockey. He wants to improve the ACA, and it needs it. Scuba Jul 2013 #173

You think the ACA has a death panel? nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #176

Please show me where Dean says it does. Scuba Jul 2013 #187

Dean said "IPAB is essentially a healthcare rationing body" in Sunday's Wall Street Journal. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #189

So he didn't say it? Neither did I. Stop equating attempts to improve the law ... Scuba Jul 2013 #190

He DID say it. He LIED that the IPAB rations care, just like Sarah Palin did. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #191

You claimed Dean said the ACA includes death panels. Prove it or you're the liar. Scuba Jul 2013 #192

I asked you if you thought the ACA had a death panel. You did not answer my question. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #194

Wow, where'd those goalposts go? Scuba Jul 2013 #195

LOL. I figured you wouldn't be able to deny that Dean lied. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #196

Revisionist history... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #128

true dat Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #165

+1 leftstreet Jul 2013 #11

Detroit should have been a bank instead of a city full of people. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #17

Or declared a corporation... midnight Jul 2013 #132

+1,000,000 duffyduff Jul 2013 #27

It was BUSH who bailed out the banks in 2008, not Obama. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #84

google Obama TARP mick063 Jul 2013 #93

I did. Did you? Also, Google Henry Paulson. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #94

from my phone mick063 Jul 2013 #95

From your link: SunSeeker Jul 2013 #97

Rah Rah PR mick063 Jul 2013 #98

Well, it was not even conjured up by Paulson until October 2008... SunSeeker Jul 2013 #99

Just quote the paragraph. mick063 Jul 2013 #101

I did. The rest is weird. It is not exactly a news site. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #103

ok. I guess I have to do it. mick063 Jul 2013 #110

Bush signed TARP, not Obama. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #117

Candidate Obama voted for TARP, not Bush. TARP would not have passed without his support. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #119

TARP passed the Senate with 74 votes. Obama's vote is not what put it over the top. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #123

Obama represented the Democatic Party as it's nominee. It would not have passed without his support AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #124

The bailout was crafted by Bush/Paulson. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #125

1/2 the funds were given out during the Bush Administration. 1/2 DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #126

ALL of the funds were authorized under the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. OBAMA made the banks pay it back. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #137

All the funds were authorized under the Bush Administration WITH OBAMA'S ACTIVE PARTICIPATION. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #139

Obama did not conjure up the bailout, that was Paulson. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #140

As the Democratic nominee and the representative of the Party, Obama voted for TARP, not Paulson. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #141

Paulson WROTE it. That is "active participation" to use your words. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #148

Obama voted for it, not Paulson. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #150

Are you suggesting that Paulson would not have voted for it after WRITING it? SunSeeker Jul 2013 #152

No. I'm saying "Obama voted for it, not Paulson." AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #153

Good. But you don't seem to understand that BUSH SIGNED TARP. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #154

No. OBAMA SUPPORTED TARP AS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. Bush could not have signed it without his help AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #155

Obama did not support the terms of BUSH's TARP. He changed them. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #158

Then you admit that Obama participated in writing TARP. Thank you. Finally. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #160

No, Obama did not write TARP. PAULSON DID. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #161

Re-read your #158 post. You AMITTED KNOWING Obama CHANGED the terms. You admitted knowing that AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #162

No, I said he changed the terms AFTER HE TOOK OFFICE, when he had the power to do so. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #163

You need to do more research. Obama changed Paulson's origional TARP before voting on it. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #164

Links? nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #166

Do your own research. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #169

LOL. Yeah, I didn't think you had anything. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #177

Did you overlook Obama's Senate speech> "There will be time to punish those who set this fire, ..." AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #178

I see, you want to change the subject. LOL. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #179

Obama's speech was to persuade Senate Democrats to vote for TARP. He was actively involved. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #180

He was acknowledging the emergency of the situation; that is not writing TARP. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #184

No, that was not writing TARP. His modifications to TARP were separate from his speech. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #185

since when does the consritution grant any power to Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #127

It's good to see that somebody get's it. Somebody finally gets it. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #102

So the bailout was done by Obama?!! REALLY?! wow...ok, i...ok uponit7771 Jul 2013 #142

LOL JoePhilly Jul 2013 #147

Then why is he helping to ensure the rich get richer? burnodo Jul 2013 #4

A suspicious person might think it to be a form of the trickle-down theory. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #156

Is he bragging, or what? woo me with science Jul 2013 #6

LOL! & +1 Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #10

No, but ProSense Jul 2013 #12

He's bragging! "Mission Accomplished." chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #32

I can't recall any Gen.Wesley Clark, Gov. Dean, or Paul Krugman types being nominated to high-level indepat Jul 2013 #75

And it only took four years... Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #8

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #15

Yes. See, he is a smart man. Trillo Jul 2013 #9

Not something a self-respecting republican would say. Income inequality is a good thing to a true pampango Jul 2013 #13

I'm sure his $9 minimum wage and global free trade deals will set us straight. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #14

So ProSense Jul 2013 #20

I think $9/hr stinks. People can't live on that. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #22

Employers will merely hire part-timers and save on benefits as well as wages duffyduff Jul 2013 #28

Yes to the part time louse. So the solution is a living wage, oh, $25 per hour. Trillo Jul 2013 #42

The problem is they aren't doing that. duffyduff Jul 2013 #57

Single Payer Health care !! Takes employers off the hook ... why don't they support it. YOHABLO Jul 2013 #116

You know why... NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #134

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #38

Obama's $9 wage: just enough to say he's not quite as bad as a Republican. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #41

Republicans ProSense Jul 2013 #43

Uh huh. $9 sucks. That's Obama's idea of a decent wage. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #44

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #45

This policy is weak and puny. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #48

Right, ProSense Jul 2013 #50

Minimum wage is already $9 an hour in Washington and $8.90 in Oregon Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #30

More like too little too late. Bradical79 Jul 2013 #40

The problem is, he's already set his opening negotiation point at $9. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2013 #92

+10000000000 woo me with science Jul 2013 #21

The minimum wage is $9.19 in WA state. Obama's clueless leftstreet Jul 2013 #31

Nine dollar minimum wage while implementing the Trans-Pacific woo me with science Jul 2013 #51

yeah. exactly. limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #53

Excuse me, Pres. Obama, but remember the banker/Wall Street mortgage crimes? WinkyDink Jul 2013 #16

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice . . . - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #18

Yeah, he's so worried about it he wants to cut Social Security. forestpath Jul 2013 #19

Because if HE makes those cuts.... NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #133

Ah, very clever. The seven-dimension chess master wins again. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #143

Yeah, he's all heart, isn't he? Meanwhile, repug sharks smell the SS blood in the water. forestpath Jul 2013 #159

Then propose an agenda that will address the problems.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #23

He HAS done that and it was rejected by the House. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #33

He proposed a Wall Street tax? He proposed an Eisenhower sized infrastructure project? Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #35

Eisenhower had a Democratic Congress. This split Congress rejected BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #46

In other words The Bully Pulpit will be used to show he cares while... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #63

+1000000 Phlem Jul 2013 #67

Nope. Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #172

To each his own Chief. Phlem Jul 2013 #174

Try this BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #69

Whine whine whine whine WHINE whine whine Zoeisright Jul 2013 #90

Yep. Constantly whining about Republican obstructionism is getting old. n/t Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #91

+10 SHRED Jul 2013 #72

Don't worry about it Obama, the free market system will work it out. PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #24

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #25

Keep up the good work, Mr. President. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #26

About Time He Figured This Out - Applies To The World As Well cantbeserious Jul 2013 #29

Does anyone here understand how Govt works or do you all still think JaneyVee Jul 2013 #34

Mean Republicans won't let him lead, so he'll accurately describe the problems... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #36

No wand, but he does have a pen... Bradical79 Jul 2013 #39

Can we hold any hope that, at some time in the future, the corporate 'D' uber alles crowd Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #52

Well Bachmann did say they needed to take Pres O's magic wand Iliyah Jul 2013 #56

...Ron Paul said he had a wand and that it worked so they believe him /sarcasm uponit7771 Jul 2013 #144

I love what he says Bradical79 Jul 2013 #37

Allrighty then! Safetykitten Jul 2013 #47

Anyone from Wall St in prison? SHRED Jul 2013 #49

No shit Sherlock. JEB Jul 2013 #54

|:-) kentuck Jul 2013 #73

Income Inequality Fueled By Outright Corruption DallasNE Jul 2013 #55

I am really surprised this country is still somewhat unified. roamer65 Jul 2013 #58

Where was all this before? Brigid Jul 2013 #59

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #60

K & R ctsnowman Jul 2013 #61

So he plans to solve the problem by appointing Lawrence Summers as Fed chairman tularetom Jul 2013 #62

Then he can create more jobs by approving the Oil pipeline.. kentuck Jul 2013 #64

Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #68

Must have heard only 200 jobs will be created. kentuck Jul 2013 #71

It's a done deal. "Evaluate" = "I'm going to delay telling you that I approve of it." AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #120

Yeah, well, bailouts, chained CPI, putting earned benefits on the table, NuclearDem Jul 2013 #66

Lots of things have been fraying the "social fabric." Igel Jul 2013 #70

Still, worth talking about. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #74

Platitudes. Ed Suspicious Jul 2013 #76

You'd think he was running for president instead of already having 5-1/2 years under his belt. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #77

'Fraying U.S. social fabric' is just what you'd expect a Muslin to say pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #81

Sorry Mr. President, but you reap what you sow. nt NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #82

K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #85

OFFS Phlem Jul 2013 #87

Alan Grayson TPP Secret Treaty �This Hands Sovereignty of Our Country Over to Corp Interests" Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #88

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #89

Funny, I have seen Obama work diligently to expand that gap bowens43 Jul 2013 #108

yep Phlem Jul 2013 #113

TPP and TAFTA will fix that. hay rick Jul 2013 #111

Wow he's on a roll! By the way, next speech..."The Sky Is Blue!" Safetykitten Jul 2013 #112

I would like to add Caretha Jul 2013 #114

Was he standing under a "Mission Accomplished" banner when he said that? nt NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #115

We need the bat signal! Rex Jul 2013 #118

Be careful what you wish for Fumesucker Jul 2013 #121

Oh that would suck! Rex Jul 2013 #122

This thread is so full of FAIL. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #129

The proof is in the pudding, let's just take the 2000 election since you mention that last Fumesucker Jul 2013 #130

Yeah. Lieberman sucked ass. But that still didn't justify the left's hate of Al Gore. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #167

He had his chance mick063 Jul 2013 #131

Obama did not "blow it"-He passed the ACA, with only 24 days of a filibuster proof majority. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #157

That must be why we do not have universal health care. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #181

My brother will have health coverage for the first time in his adult life. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #182

Would your brother prefer to not have universal health care? Obama could have achieved that. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #183

Obama could not get single payer. But he got us a good first step. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #186

Waiting for him to 'speak about' something? Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #136

Great post, DI. Only one correction: Obama only had 24 working days of a filibuster proof majority SunSeeker Jul 2013 #138

This is fudr, one of the first responses to the thread was Obama bailed out the banks...no really, uponit7771 Jul 2013 #145

+1000 JoePhilly Jul 2013 #149

Full of leftist hypocrites who will bitch and moan no matter what outcome. great white snark Jul 2013 #151

+1000 BklnDem75 Jul 2013 #170

+1000 Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #171

Right Phlem Jul 2013 #175

BREAKING: Obama Says Income Gap Is Fraying U.S. Social Fabric... NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #135

by helping create jobs?! Or are you one of the left who agrees with wingers et al about the economy uponit7771 Jul 2013 #146

HA! Phlem Jul 2013 #168

The Amazon warehouse tour was enlightening mick063 Jul 2013 #193