Glenn Greenwald POPPED Tim Geithner in the chops, way before it was cool.

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113. 'Apologists'. LOL!

I see a public forum as NO different than a court of law. Innocent until proven guilty. Snowden is easy. He admitted he stole classified material and fled the country, and now holds it hostage. Broke the laws as written. Guilty. Both he and Greenwald have leveled accusations at the U.S. Government that because they have the tools to spy on everyone, they're obviously spying on everyone. That would be circumstantial. NO evidence has been provided that shows the NSA illegally spying on anyone. Quite the contrary, according to Greenwald's 'leaks', it shows the long list of hoops the NSA must jump through to acquire data. Data mining? Been going on for years.. unless you haven't been paying attention. Mining every single person's data? Circumstantial. Again, just because you have the tools doesn't mean you're actually doing it, such as a car can be used for mass murder - it does not mean everyone is going to use it that way. That would be silly (hint).

As for Greenwald/Snowden, as in any court, witnesses/accusers are put under the microscope as to determine wether there's any ulterior motives to make sure they're on the up and up. Greenwald's activism/libertarianism nixes his neutrality, and Snowden's confession that he only took the Booz job with the sole intention of stealing information and fleeing the country with it, raises a bevy of red flags, especially the countries he ran to, who have horrid records of human rights violations.

So, the next time you get unnerved about all those 'apologists' not jumping on the band wagon, just remember its not they who taking one giant leap of faith off a giant cliff. They're not the ones making accusations. THAT burden of proof lies with you. Circumstantial assumptions just don't cut it.