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BlueStreak

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55. It is happening already, to a degree
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jul 2013

Yes, it is ironic. Wal*Mart used to operate smallish stores in mostly rural areas that were not already covered by K-Mars, Sears, etc. That also happened to be in their "Made in America is good" phase. But since then, they have been driven by nothing but clinical efficiency. They keep making the boxes bigger and keep squeezing employees and suppliers harder and harder. They really have reached the breaking point. They could remain at this level, except for the Amazon factor.

Amazon senses this opportunity and that is why they are back into the same "grow now, worry about profits later" mode as when they started in the late 1990s.

They have already crushed the bookstore industry and they are well on their way to crushing Wal*Mart. But we should recognize that the Amazon customer is not exactly the Wal*Mart demographic. For one thing, you do need a credit or debit card -- i.e. some banking support. So Wal*Mart is in a spot. They really don't have much room for growth, other than in the lower demographic (and CostCo is hammering away at the higher demographic Wal*Mart customers.)

About the only good to say for Amazon is that they do have a marketing model that includes independent businesses, so they haven't crushed every little business along the way. And then there is NewEgg, which is following the Amazon model and growing quickly.

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For better or worse, brick-and-mortar retail is destined to shrink. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #1
Is there an actual article that goes with this? bunnies Jul 2013 #2
He's talking about the Walmart effect. onehandle Jul 2013 #4
What if Amazon kills Wal-Mart? bunnies Jul 2013 #6
It is happening already, to a degree BlueStreak Jul 2013 #55
Amazon made a hiring announcement BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #9
Thanks. bunnies Jul 2013 #11
There are hundreds of locally owned businesses between me and the closest Walmart. onehandle Jul 2013 #13
Most of the stuff that I get IS from small businesses BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #30
I get a lot of my stuff from small businesses who sell thru Amazon. Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #41
Lots of bars and restaurants where I live. bunnies Jul 2013 #45
Agree about Walmart! BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #16
But they're not saying what salary & benefits are attached to these "jobs" frazzled Jul 2013 #23
Amazon also gives local cottage industries a national outlet. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #50
Absolutely! I've read of small shops who have had to close snappyturtle Jul 2013 #56
I suppose I am part of the problem. I use Amazon a lot. MADem Jul 2013 #3
I am also a big user BUT BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #12
I've wondered about this. I live in a rural suburban neighborhood with a not very enough Jul 2013 #21
+1. ecstatic Jul 2013 #15
Often the people who work in the Big Box stores have little knowledge... spin Jul 2013 #22
I use Amazon a lot too tabbycat31 Jul 2013 #20
I buy both clothes and groceries from Amazon. ... spin Jul 2013 #24
I use them as well, because I like finding EXACTLY what I am looking for SoCalDem Jul 2013 #28
I completely agree. NYC Liberal Jul 2013 #48
Me, too. tanyev Jul 2013 #61
I use Amazon now and then, but not that often. ananda Jul 2013 #5
And Reich likes to reap those benefits joeglow3 Jul 2013 #7
That's unfair. Publishers don't give you a choice whether you're on Amazon or not. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #27
Nobody is forced to publish their book on Kindle (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #29
If you want to be published by a major publisher you don't have a choice. pnwmom Jul 2013 #35
If he feels so strongly that Amazon is evil, Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #38
He's not an impractical purist. He wants his overall message to be seen by pnwmom Jul 2013 #42
Bullshit. Look at Wheel Of Time joeglow3 Jul 2013 #46
That's the call of the publisher, unless you're an author with a name like J.K. Rowling. nt pnwmom Jul 2013 #47
Two things at a minimum must change exboyfil Jul 2013 #8
The big difference between UPS and FedEx and USPS is that UPS and FedEx are reliable. ... spin Jul 2013 #17
No, the big difference is COST. pnwmom Jul 2013 #31
Interesting. I rarely ship items. I just receive them. (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #39
Amazon creates more jobs than it eliminates. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #10
That's an excellent point that I hadn't considered before. Thanks ... spin Jul 2013 #18
Yes, high quality jobs. Why not take all the propaganda. Also, the working... Safetykitten Jul 2013 #25
Don't forget the generous salaries and benefits ... Myrina Jul 2013 #54
I have to drive 36 miles round trip to the nearest big box store. ... spin Jul 2013 #14
But EVERYONE loves working in sweatshop part-time soul crushing no-benefits jobs! Safetykitten Jul 2013 #19
Video kills radio star. Ford destroys horse and buggy business. KurtNYC Jul 2013 #26
Please post your job and place of employment. onehandle Jul 2013 #32
Which is why one needs to make sure they keep their skills up to date and JoePhilly Jul 2013 #36
The path to more jobs for Americans isn't a U-turn KurtNYC Jul 2013 #40
Exactly. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #33
That's basically it in a nutshell. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #43
Not all change is for the better. moondust Jul 2013 #51
Amazon is *great* for the environment. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #34
Get your sweatshop goods shipped eco-friendly! leftstreet Jul 2013 #49
I don't buy sweatshop goods from Amazon. MADem Jul 2013 #53
Sometimes progress isn't pretty - lynne Jul 2013 #37
Maybe I'm just backwards, but I only buy online when it's the last resort. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #44
What a Coinkydink that POTUS is at Amazon in TN today ... Myrina Jul 2013 #52
But they're also keeping UPS busy ... Bake Jul 2013 #57
To be accurate, it's we the consumers who destroy those jobs BainsBane Jul 2013 #58
Doing a website with an online store isn't all that difficult or expensive - lynne Jul 2013 #62
Wow. i never thought of it like that. i buy from them.. allin99 Jul 2013 #59
solution? Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #60
K&R for Truth Tellers Octafish Jul 2013 #63
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