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In reply to the discussion: Wasn't Jimmy Carter hated by the left at one point too? [View all]TBF
(36,635 posts)49. I think liberals were pretty loyal to him --
Socialists/Communists will have critique. To wit -
A Brief History of the Democrats:
Jimmy Carter was a president who claimed that human rights was "the soul of our foreign policy" despite making an agreement with Baby Doc Duvalier to not accept the asylum claims of Haitian refugees. His duplicity, however, was not limited to our hemisphere; Carter also earned his Nobel Prize in Southeast Asia. In Cambodia, Jimmy Carter and his national security aide, Zbigniew Brzezinski made an "untiring effort to find peaceful solutions" by initiating a joint U.S.-Thai operation in 1979 known as Task Force 80 which, for ten years, propped up the notorious Khmer Rouge under the all-purpose banner of anti-Communism. "Small wonder present U.S.-originating stories about the Khmer Rouge end abruptly in 1979," says journalist Alexander Cockburn. Interestingly, just two years earlier, Carter displayed his "respect for human rights" when he explained how the US owed no debt to Vietnam. He justified this belief because the "destruction was mutual."
"Candidates say "vote for me, and I will do so-and-so for you." Few believe them, but more important, a different process is unthinkable: that in their unions, political clubs, and other popular organizations people should formulate their own plans and projects and put forth candidates to represent them. Even more unthinkable is that the general public should have a voice in decisions about investment, production, the character of work, and other basic aspects of life. The minimal conditions for functioning democracy have been removed far beyond thought, a remarkable victory of the doctrinal system."
-- Noam Chomsky
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I don't think it's a conspiracy, I think it's overt at this point... Obama bailed out the banks is a
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#11
Obama *didn't* bail out the banks... And isn't continuing to bail them out today
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2013
#85
RayGun Democrats? Even if they weren't far left they were center and dems had an ear
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#17
also, my point is I don't think the vast amount of these people are REALLY from the left...they are
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#24
My first thought as well. I'm willing to wager .01% of the left voted for reagan. nt
adirondacker
Jul 2013
#63
It just sounds too...orchestrated...I mean, Clinton?! Gore ran from Clinton?! Even teh GOP likes
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#8
...but to denegrate him to the point of electing raygun?! I mean, by NOW we have to figure out
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#14
They don't have 30 they have 24. It's roughly half. And I question the use of the word 'already'
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#88
Thanks for the correction. I wish I had the optimism that you have, though. I don't have
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2013
#96
There's a small segment of the population that's never happy about anything...
Scurrilous
Jul 2013
#12
...unnnn, we're all malcontents to some degree. This is Carter, Clinton and no Obama focused ...
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#15
I prolly should change the OP title, my point being is I don't think the vast amount of them were...
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#26
Back when he was "born again" and attracted Michele Bachmann to work on his campaign...
cascadiance
Jul 2013
#32
I know he's always been a good Christian. Hard to say though about other "born agains"...
cascadiance
Jul 2013
#37
Yep. That's right. It's easy to sit on the sideline and express disappointment on a message forum...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2013
#97
I imagine that's an eye-opening experience (working inside the beltway w/ politicians). n/t
X_Digger
Jul 2013
#99
Raygun = so what? I don't think so, tearing down the president and criticizing is 2 different things
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#64
Bullshit. The far Left split and weakened the party. Sometimes is is better to work
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#94
I have always been part of the "left" and there has never been a moment when I hated him.
1-Old-Man
Jul 2013
#50
Carter was despised by Tip O'Neill and Ted Kennedy - liberal heroes...
Drunken Irishman
Jul 2013
#51
Yep, if we could just get rid of the left this country would be a paradise n/t
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#95
The left went for Ted Kennedy in 1980 and the party never united before the election.
Zen Democrat
Jul 2013
#60
Thanks for the informative post. I hadn't realized the friction between Carter and old guard. nt
adirondacker
Jul 2013
#65
The official Democratic Party is simply so far removed from a major portion of the rank and file.
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#69
Sounds good to me, Gore running away from Clinton seems like he listened to the detractors
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#75
No, he listened to the Turd Way. Come on now, this was just a little while back.
TheKentuckian
Jul 2013
#92
What I remember..Mr.Carter was considered by nearly all as a Moral Man, but that isn't what...
Tikki
Jul 2013
#80
Yeah, remember when Democrats were so Democratic that Carter seemed like a rightist?
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2013
#86
The Democratic Party Beltway brats hated Carter primaried him and when he won they all
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#90
The Carter era, as I recall it, was marked by enormous political apathy
struggle4progress
Jul 2013
#93