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DevonRex

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23. Members of the Senate Intelligence Committee must be cleared to see product

Tue Jul 30, 2013, 07:46 PM

Jul 2013

not just reports that have been prepared and massaged for presentation to them. Not only that, they must actually take a proactive role and go see that product as it happens, real time, in the case of NSA.

They must have TS/SCI clearance and they must use it, not just accept what the various agency heads tell them is so. That means actually seeing what a voice interceptor does and what an analyst does.

They must have the ability to show up unannounced at NSA and accompany the OIG Inspectors to any and every inspection, investigation or audit they happen to be conducting.

And they must pour over the findings from past inspections, including the working papers, to see if the inspection system is valid or needs to be revamped or even given to an outside agency.

Oversight legislation does need to be tinkered with. But amending laws will not have any impact if the inspection system can't be trusted. I have no reason to believe that NSA OIG isn't doing his job. I just know that it's an obvious possible weak point that has to be held accountable like everything else.

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Where do you stand on the NSA? [View all] KittyWampus Jul 2013 OP

Rein it in, add additional levels of transparency. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #1

Kick the private contractors out while revamping the oversight and laws governing think Jul 2013 #2

If I can get my black ass shot Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #3

Haha. DevonRex Jul 2013 #18

You have quickly become one of my faves here! Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #42

Tell me first what NSA is doing. Downwinder Jul 2013 #4

I would base your answer on your own current understanding of what it's doing/not doing. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #5

In that case we would have to go to the source of the lying and cover-up. Downwinder Jul 2013 #12

You expect a straight answer from the Kitty? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #13

wtf is your problem? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #14

Hi Kitty RobertEarl Jul 2013 #19

Wow, I would say you and the rest of us who were attacked by a now banned troll are owed an sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #27

Not holding my breath RobertEarl Jul 2013 #30

What a shame to see so much support for an obvious troll. I also engaged him in that thread re his sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #37

'I go hunting a troll'. randome Jul 2013 #38

Isn't that special? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #45

Spying usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #41

My little sister used to do that. Listen in on phone calls and at doors. Downwinder Jul 2013 #48

Waaaaay Worse...there is no comparison to this unprecedented SPYING (LINK) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #49

Don't see any greesewood switches involved Downwinder Jul 2013 #50

I think it way more than "overreached." snot Jul 2013 #6

Get rid of the Patiot Act and the DHS, take the DEA while you are at it. Rex Jul 2013 #7

+1 LWolf Jul 2013 #21

^^this^^ 17+ intel agencie$ Enough! n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #22

I have the feeling that NSA itself would welcome some redefinition of its mission leveymg Jul 2013 #8

Pass. The whole damn survellience state ongoing trend needs to go off a cliff quinnox Jul 2013 #9

I reject the NSA and I want to see it abolished. Vashta Nerada Jul 2013 #10

Patriot act should never have become law. PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #11

You're right, and I'd add to that the suggestion that we create laws so that they never come back. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #28

How about an option of customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #15

I'd pretty much call that option #2. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #16

If it were more specific customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #20

You want them listening to Yemen exchange students? think Jul 2013 #26

Yes. customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #31

Unless you think all Yeman exchange students are terrorists think Jul 2013 #33

Of course, not all are customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #35

then why waste the time, resources, and MONEY, especially now usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #51

'do whatever you want to foreign nationals, at home and abroad'. Absolutely not. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #39

I didn't say "do whatever you want" customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #43

I'm one of those that wants to believe in a functional government in a adirondacker Jul 2013 #17

Members of the Senate Intelligence Committee must be cleared to see product DevonRex Jul 2013 #23

The NSA Should Never Have Gone from Two to Three Steps On the Road Jul 2013 #24

wondering if anyone else would vote KittyWampus Jul 2013 #25

As long as their checks keep clearing, I'm all about 'em. Robb Jul 2013 #29

Other: This poll is utter bullshit cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #32

I voted with option 2 but added my conditions in the thread. think Jul 2013 #34

Option 5 - ignorance is bliss Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #36

NSA is redundant with the formation of Homeland Security Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #40

Since nobody on DU really knows MineralMan Jul 2013 #44

Exactly how many security agencies does the federal government have? rug Jul 2013 #46

I dont stand on it, it stands on me markiv Jul 2013 #47

What's interesting is that it seems to be working as intended ucrdem Jul 2013 #52