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flamingdem

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Tue Jul 30, 2013, 07:48 PM Jul 2013

Edward Snowden: What To Expect When You're Defecting [View all]

* Love this title. This is by Mark Ames, a US journalist who lives in Moscow.

https://www.nsfwcorp.com/scribble/5595/4c86cbaf3b57ac2b44925571f9fe068e6626156c/

The latest on Edward Snowden from Newsru.com: officials from the Federal Migration Service (FMS) say that Snowden could be transferred to a refugee center currently overflowing with Syrian war refugees, likely families tied to the Russian-backed regime of Bashir Assad. Or not.

Both Russian officials and Snowden’s Kremlin-tied lawyer are making a big show about how difficult the bureaucratic process is for anyone, even someone like Snowden, to get his temporary asylum papers. If you read the Russian press accounts, the surface statements about the Tsar’s alleged helplessness before the almighty bureaucracy are pure Gogol, without the ha-ha’s, a sort of no-laughter-through-tears. Beneath the surface, there’s something more menacing, a growing sense I get reading the Russian press that Snowden is a kind of Kremlin toy whom they’re intentionally fucking with, out of either contempt, or for the sheer fun of it...

Yasha rightly pointed out last week that the Kremlin gifting Snowden a copy of “Crime and Punishment” is itself a not-subtle mind-fuck on many levels. Dostoevsky’s book is a profoundly reactionary novel about a young foolish and desperate student full of second-hand radical ideas about his superiority against established morality. His name is Raskolnikov and he thinks he’s above ordinary human laws, so he kills his landlord according to these higher laws – and later goes crazy unable to believe in the radical ideas that led him to commit a crime, so he turns himself in to the authorities, and serves his time in Siberia as penance. The name of Dostoevsky’s hero, “Raskolnikov,” itself means “cracked” or “split” – as in his cracked conscience.

Last week Snowden’s lawyer, Anatoly Kucherena, told journalists...

“I bought [for Snowden] Dostoevsky’s ‘Crime and Punishment,’ because I think that Raskolnikov, who murdered his old landlord — I think that he needs to read about this. Not necessarily because of their similarities in their internal contradictions, but nevertheless...”

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Subtitled 'What was I THINKING?' randome Jul 2013 #1
Here's one by Dovstoyevski the lawyer forgot flamingdem Jul 2013 #2
Hopefully they gave him some DVDs, too. randome Jul 2013 #5
And a soundtrack to read by flamingdem Jul 2013 #7
LOL. You guys are hilarious Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #48
Yer killin' me.. Kahuna Jul 2013 #9
Meanwhile GG sits woth his snug self in Brazil and Assauge is holding up in an embassey. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #3
Incompetent attempt at character assassination. JackRiddler Jul 2013 #15
I have revealed the truth to you, I don't see myself as a whistleblower, now the truth Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #18
I do think they are fucking with him--they want him to go home. They don't really want to help him. MADem Jul 2013 #4
Yes, it seemed to start when RT said he could stay in the airport indefinately flamingdem Jul 2013 #6
When Putin's OPPOSITION says "Get the hell outta here," he's got to feel like he's been hung out to MADem Jul 2013 #10
Snowden won't see a reference to Lenin's "Left-Wing Communism: an Infantile Disorder" struggle4progress Jul 2013 #19
I had to research since I'm not up on Leninism being flamingdem Jul 2013 #23
Why would Snowden expect support from the pro-Western faction? JVS Jul 2013 #49
People who oppose Pootie aren't necessarily pro-Western. MADem Jul 2013 #50
Novaya Gazetta is though. JVS Jul 2013 #52
No it isn't. They're an investigative paper. Their focus is Russia--politicians, criminals, etc. MADem Jul 2013 #54
No Russia runs on Russian time.... Historic NY Jul 2013 #26
Russia runs on PUTIN time. If Putin wanted Snowden ensconced in a dacha, or a Moscow flat, that's MADem Jul 2013 #27
lol Marr Jul 2013 #8
Or is it... Zorra Jul 2013 #11
Yum, I love that perfume flamingdem Jul 2013 #22
"Crime and Punishment".. imagine that. Doing the crime Cha Jul 2013 #12
LOL! He'll be the village idiot of Venezuela! randome Jul 2013 #13
LEAVE SNOWDEN ALONE!1!!!! dionysus Jul 2013 #14
Vot? Ve luff dese Amerkicaniki Snowski, ve hilp him not lave alone, nyet! flamingdem Jul 2013 #21
Ve stomp on gays, yes? randome Jul 2013 #24
Da! flamingdem Jul 2013 #25
Doing the crime and taking responsibility? JackRiddler Jul 2013 #16
I agree with the desire to throw Bush, Jr. and Cheney behind bars. randome Jul 2013 #17
I love that quote! flamingdem Jul 2013 #20
Welcome to Venezuela, gringo~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #35
Mahalo, she, for bringing that quote Cha Jul 2013 #36
I am officially in love with this thread! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #37
Ve aim to pleaz! flamingdem Jul 2013 #39
You crack me up! "FLEE"? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #43
Oh my God!! Where did you find that??! Number23 Jul 2013 #56
Hey Tarheel! Cha Jul 2013 #45
The Blah Times Is Quoting A Bus Driver? HangOnKids Jul 2013 #38
R#9 & K. Gasp, no internet access? -- unbearable!1 n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #28
Sanctuary from Torture and Life Imprisonment usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #29
Where's Paul? flamingdem Jul 2013 #30
By special request... usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #31
We've got our schtick going flamingdem Jul 2013 #32
I call a Poe. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #40
What do you call this? (LINK) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #41
Software. randome Jul 2013 #47
I stopped off in Moscow for 10 hours... brooklynite Jul 2013 #33
He would be better to come back to PA Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #34
No Shit?! His Lawyer Bought Him A Copy of C&P???? LOL! Skraxx Jul 2013 #42
Nyet in the slightest! flamingdem Jul 2013 #44
Mark Ames is in Moscow again? Last I heard he had gotten the hell out of there after Russian... JVS Jul 2013 #46
He's married to a Russian journalist flamingdem Jul 2013 #51
What is the source of information for your asterisked comment? JVS Jul 2013 #53
This thread is awesome! LOL! Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #55
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