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OnyxCollie

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43. Do you remember Thomas Nelson
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jul 2013

and the Al Haramain Islamic charity?


February 28, 2006: Saudi Charitable Organization Sues Bush Administration Over Alleged Illegal Wiretapping
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=thomas_nelson_1

The Al Haramain Islamic Foundation, a now-defunct Saudi Arabian charitable organization that once operated in Oregon, sues the Bush administration [ASSOCIATED PRESS, 2/28/2006] over what it calls illegal surveillance of its telephone and e-mail communications by the National Security Agency, the so-called Terrorist Surveillance Program. The lawsuit may provide the first direct evidence of US residents and citizens being spied upon by the Bush administration’s secret eavesdropping program, according to the lawsuit (see December 15, 2005). According to a source familiar with the case, the NSA monitored telephone conversations between Al Haramain’s director, then in Saudi Arabia, and two US citizens working as lawyers for the organization and operating out of Washington, DC. The lawsuit alleges that the NSA violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (see 1978), the US citizens’ Fourth Amendment rights, and the attorney-client privilege. FISA experts say that while they are unfamiliar with the specifics of this lawsuit, they question whether a FISA judge would have allowed surveillance of conversations between US lawyers and their client under the circumstances described in the lawsuit. Other lawsuits have been filed against the Bush administration over suspicions of illegal government wiretapping, but this is the first lawsuit to present classified government documents as evidence to support its contentions. The lawsuit alleges that the NSA illegally intercepted communications between Al Haramain officer Suliman al-Buthe in Saudi Arabia, and its lawyers Wendell Belew and Asim Ghafoor in Washington. One of its most effective pieces of evidence is a document accidentally turned over to the group by the Treasury Department, dated May 24, 2004, that shows the NSA did indeed monitor conversations between Al Haramain officials and lawyers. When Al Haramain officials received the document in late May, 2004, they gave a copy to the Washington Post, whose editors and lawyers decided, under threat of government prosecution, to return the document to the government rather than report on it (see Late May, 2004). [WASHINGTON POST, 3/2/2006; WASHINGTON POST, 3/3/2006] Lawyer Thomas Nelson, who represents Al Haramain and Belew, later recalls he didn’t realize what the organization had until he read the New York Times’s December 2005 story of the NSA’s secret wiretapping program (see December 15, 2005). “I got up in the morning and read the story, and I thought, ‘My god, we had a log of a wiretap and it may or may not have been the NSA and on further reflection it was NSA,’” Nelson will recall. “So we decided to file a lawsuit.” Nelson and other lawyers were able to retrieve one of the remaining copies of the document, most likely from Saudi Arabia, and turned it over to the court as part of their lawsuit. [WIRED NEWS, 3/5/2007]

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K&R LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #1
But, but, but Greenwald's gay and Snowden was dating a pole dancer. Who can trust Wyden ... Scuba Jul 2013 #2
Greenwald has a new article coming out this week. I hope tomorrow. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #3
They're gonna need a bigger bus. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #16
Shhh...for a moment, I thought I heard a Snowden hata. wtmusic Jul 2013 #52
K&R woo me with science Jul 2013 #4
I bet you it's secret info being sold to companies and private individuals. reformist2 Jul 2013 #5
I doubt the hearing would have gone there hootinholler Jul 2013 #6
That looks like the right ticket. Please see my comment below. leveymg Jul 2013 #8
Thaaaaaaat's right! Th1onein Jul 2013 #40
where meta-data bobduca Jul 2013 #53
How is anyone going to collect the metadata, without collecting the data contained inside? RC Jul 2013 #62
A previous whistleblower said they call up records of lots of lawyers in law firms. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #25
Do you remember Thomas Nelson OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #43
An attorney has a duty to keep the confidential information of the client. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #50
"Violations of those court orders with respect to the bulk phone record collection" So, NSA is leveymg Jul 2013 #7
We know Alexander is of the scoop and poop mentality hootinholler Jul 2013 #13
To be kind, more like dining out at Golden Corral - eat all the starch your belly can hold. leveymg Jul 2013 #21
Wyden is one of the last of the real Democrats. Vanje Jul 2013 #9
"The TIP of the Iceberg." bvar22 Jul 2013 #10
K&R G_j Jul 2013 #11
K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #12
Kick. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #14
K&R nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #15
Well, well, well. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #17
K&R'd. The more resources devoted to attacking the messenger, snot Jul 2013 #18
+10 RC Jul 2013 #63
Nailed it. hueymahl Jul 2013 #65
Here's why 'trust us' isn's working fpr the NSA any more... (WaPo) Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #19
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #20
DURec leftstreet Jul 2013 #22
But but but... Rex Jul 2013 #23
Wyden: Why I voted "present" on James Comey's nomination... Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #24
k&R think Jul 2013 #26
So happy he's my Senator regardless of neverforget Jul 2013 #27
K&R NealK Jul 2013 #28
How soon before we see multiple threads attacking Wydens character and past? ram2008 Jul 2013 #29
Look at the blanket of attacks on Howard Dean. dkf Jul 2013 #30
Why waste time attacking the Greenwald Left like Wyden NoOneMan Jul 2013 #32
Inquiring minds want to know, how many boxes does he have in his garage??? reformist2 Jul 2013 #34
Does he stop to pet the neighbor's dog? n/t Aerows Jul 2013 #70
knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #31
Wyden's a racist! Enthusiast Jul 2013 #33
I heard he stores a garage in his boxers. GoneFishin Jul 2013 #35
And dogs the neighbor's pets. n/t Aerows Jul 2013 #71
The Atlantic: Why NSA Surveillance Will Be More Damaging Than You Think Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #36
Is this an OP somewhere? grasswire Jul 2013 #58
Be my guest! Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #60
not a plot to bring down POTUS...just an effective means of dismantling democracy. nashville_brook Jul 2013 #37
DOJ Responds to Non-Intell Committee Member Rand Paul but not to Intel Committe Wyden Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #38
Well I'm significantly more troubled now upi402 Jul 2013 #39
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #41
It's going to be bad. Count on it. Th1onein Jul 2013 #42
I have a lot of respect for this man. Autumn Jul 2013 #44
Unfortunately for him and us as a whole mrdmk Jul 2013 #46
K&R. We need more like him in the Senate. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #45
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #47
Be curious to see what would happen if Senator Wyden became a whistle blower! Dustlawyer Jul 2013 #48
He needs to go to his Senator with this info... Fumesucker Jul 2013 #55
Give cops new toys to play with, and if they are not competently supervised, Zorra Jul 2013 #49
Dianne Feinstein is Chair of Senate Intelligence. Hold hearings! Coyotl Jul 2013 #51
k&r thanks for posting. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #54
I hope he has excellent security. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #56
I think we are going to see that they have set up a file Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #57
well, they can't ruin him in Oregon grasswire Jul 2013 #59
k&r #100 avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #61
Keep the pressure on! Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #64
Wyden is a Hero hueymahl Jul 2013 #66
Let's see libdude Jul 2013 #67
Kick LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #68
That's some scary shit. secondvariety Jul 2013 #69
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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #73
You are most welcome Uncle Joe. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #74
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