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In reply to the discussion: Greenwald: NSA hearing cancelled [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)97. So you're intentionally missing the point. That's different.
We wouldn't know as much about how the United States government was torturing its own enlisted man:
The inhumane conditions of Bradley Mannings detention
The private -- accused of leaking to WikiLeaks -- endures conditions many would call cruel, and possibly torture
BY GLENN GREENWALD
Salon.com, WEDNESDAY, DEC 15, 2010
Bradley Manning, the 22-year-old U.S. Army Private accused of leaking classified documents to WikiLeaks, has never been convicted of that crime, nor of any other crime. Despite that, he has been detained at the U.S. Marine brig in Quantico, Virginia for five months and for two months before that in a military jail in Kuwait under conditions that constitute cruel and inhumane treatment and, by the standards of many nations, even torture. Interviews with several people directly familiar with the conditions of Mannings detention, ultimately including a Quantico brig official (Lt. Brian Villiard) who confirmed much of what they conveyed, establishes that the accused leaker is subjected to detention conditions likely to create long-term psychological injuries.
Since his arrest in May, Manning has been a model detainee, without any episodes of violence or disciplinary problems. He nonetheless was declared from the start to be a Maximum Custody Detainee, the highest and most repressive level of military detention, which then became the basis for the series of inhumane measures imposed on him.
From the beginning of his detention, Manning has been held in intensive solitary confinement. For 23 out of 24 hours every day for seven straight months and counting he sits completely alone in his cell. Even inside his cell, his activities are heavily restricted; hes barred even from exercising and is under constant surveillance to enforce those restrictions. For reasons that appear completely punitive, hes being denied many of the most basic attributes of civilized imprisonment, including even a pillow or sheets for his bed (he is not and never has been on suicide watch). For the one hour per day when he is freed from this isolation, he is barred from accessing any news or current events programs. Lt. Villiard protested that the conditions are not like jail movies where someone gets thrown into the hole, but confirmed that he is in solitary confinement, entirely alone in his cell except for the one hour per day he is taken out.
In sum, Manning has been subjected for many months without pause to inhumane, personality-erasing, soul-destroying, insanity-inducing conditions of isolation similar to those perfected at Americas Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado: all without so much as having been convicted of anything. And as is true of many prisoners subjected to warped treatment of this sort, the brigs medical personnel now administer regular doses of anti-depressants to Manning to prevent his brain from snapping from the effects of this isolation.
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http://www.salon.com/2010/12/15/manning_3/
How much of that was mentioned in your local newspaper? Did you see the story on your television screen? Did you hear people talk about it at work? I didn't at all, until Greenwald wrote that article.
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You're claiming I "whined" because you're upset I'm criticizing Greenwald for whining?
ProSense
Jul 2013
#17
Well I guess that completely destroys your repeated contention that Greenwald and Snowden are
Vinnie From Indy
Jul 2013
#12
That statement seems pretty unambiguous and self-explanatory, but let me know if you
Vinnie From Indy
Jul 2013
#21
Well of course they are. And everybody else is an agent of NSA, BOA, or the Chamber of Commerce.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#49
Funny, I care about the Bill of Rights and Greenwald's whine is still hilarious. n/t
ProSense
Jul 2013
#48
If that disqualifies him in your mind as a journalist, you may really not understand.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#85
No. I believe in Greenwald and the RIGHT of all journalists to state what they think.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#105
What's low is Grayson thinking he could get away with showboating on the taxpayer's dime
railsback
Jul 2013
#80
LOL. Someone certainly has an ego. I'm sorry he doesn't get to have his pretend "hearing"
tritsofme
Jul 2013
#63