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96. Thanks for the correction. I wish I had the optimism that you have, though. I don't have

Reply to Bluenorthwest (Reply #88)

Tue Jul 30, 2013, 09:42 PM

Jul 2013

that much faith in the average American voter.

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Wasn't Jimmy Carter hated by the left at one point too? [View all] uponit7771 Jul 2013 OP

It doesn't take a conspiracy for people to disagree with you cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #1

I don't think it's a conspiracy, I think it's overt at this point... Obama bailed out the banks is a uponit7771 Jul 2013 #11

Obama *didn't* bail out the banks... And isn't continuing to bail them out today MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #85

No..nt Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 #2

Why so many votes for RayGun by those on the left? regards uponit7771 Jul 2013 #6

Why would we think there were a lot of Reagan votes on the left? cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #10

reagan democrats were also holdovers from the old south datasuspect Jul 2013 #33

What? Reagan got significant votes from the left! Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #13

RayGun Democrats? Even if they weren't far left they were center and dems had an ear uponit7771 Jul 2013 #17

You've misplaced your own narrative. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #19

So ALL raygun dems were conservative?! tia uponit7771 Jul 2013 #21

"Why so many votes for RayGun by those on the left?" - your argument. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #25

also, my point is I don't think the vast amount of these people are REALLY from the left...they are uponit7771 Jul 2013 #24

My first thought as well. I'm willing to wager .01% of the left voted for reagan. nt adirondacker Jul 2013 #63

I think the swing voters might have been southern D's. Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 #18

The Reagan Democrats were also from the Midwest and some Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #38

any source or evidence for that statement? burnodo Jul 2013 #59

No votes from the left for reagan, just many nominal Democrats. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #104

So was LBJ LordGlenconner Jul 2013 #3

It just sounds too...orchestrated...I mean, Clinton?! Gore ran from Clinton?! Even teh GOP likes uponit7771 Jul 2013 #8

He was hated, and because of the Vietnam War. MicaelS Jul 2013 #16

LBJ was despised because he escalated the Vietnam War Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #40

How do you think we ended up with Raygun? liberal N proud Jul 2013 #4

Because of Nader Capt. Obvious Jul 2013 #20

Because he told the truth. He told us the party was over after tsuki Jul 2013 #91

not really G_j Jul 2013 #5

"Do you see this going on at a low level today?" ecstatic Jul 2013 #7

That randroid racist Ted Kennedy for example? Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #9

...but to denegrate him to the point of electing raygun?! I mean, by NOW we have to figure out uponit7771 Jul 2013 #14

As much as I loved Teddy and miss him dearly, I do Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #43

They don't have 30 they have 24. It's roughly half. And I question the use of the word 'already' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #88

Thanks for the correction. I wish I had the optimism that you have, though. I don't have Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #96

There's a small segment of the population that's never happy about anything... Scurrilous Jul 2013 #12

...unnnn, we're all malcontents to some degree. This is Carter, Clinton and no Obama focused ... uponit7771 Jul 2013 #15

It's a wink and a nod nolabels Jul 2013 #27

God yes, I see them here on DU every day Fumesucker Jul 2013 #22

Small, and noisy. eom Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #56

He started deregulation. Victim of "malaise" Democrats_win Jul 2013 #23

I prolly should change the OP title, my point being is I don't think the vast amount of them were... uponit7771 Jul 2013 #26

Also deregulated the airlines, truebluegreen Jul 2013 #31

Of course that is why Kennedy challenged him because he wasn't liberal enough. WI_DEM Jul 2013 #28

Jimmy wasn't real popular period. .. spin Jul 2013 #29

I remember all of that,and the gas lines got old fast Go Vols Jul 2013 #44

As I said Jimmy Carter had unbelievably bad luck while President but ... spin Jul 2013 #67

I remember going to Boston in 1978 HoneychildMooseMoss Jul 2013 #89

except the economy was worse in Reagan's first term than it was in Carter's hfojvt Jul 2013 #45

Let's not forget Carter's bad luck. ... spin Jul 2013 #70

Jimmy Carter got stuck with LBJ and Richard Nixon's inflation problem. roamer65 Jul 2013 #72

I totally agree. (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #81

Every single Dem President dennis4868 Jul 2013 #30

That's a serious exaggeration. Daemonaquila Jul 2013 #39

right.. dennis4868 Jul 2013 #47

That is an unequivocable lie. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #42

but its true... dennis4868 Jul 2013 #48

Back when he was "born again" and attracted Michele Bachmann to work on his campaign... cascadiance Jul 2013 #32

He's still 'born again' his religious views haven't changed. WI_DEM Jul 2013 #34

I know he's always been a good Christian. Hard to say though about other "born agains"... cascadiance Jul 2013 #37

He sure was. I work for the federal government and my Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #35

+1 from another southerner X_Digger Jul 2013 #53

Yep. That's right. It's easy to sit on the sideline and express disappointment on a message forum... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #97

I imagine that's an eye-opening experience (working inside the beltway w/ politicians). n/t X_Digger Jul 2013 #99

So what? Daemonaquila Jul 2013 #36

Raygun = so what? I don't think so, tearing down the president and criticizing is 2 different things uponit7771 Jul 2013 #64

Actually, no. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #41

no. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #46

I think liberals were pretty loyal to him -- TBF Jul 2013 #49

Bullshit. The far Left split and weakened the party. Sometimes is is better to work bluestate10 Jul 2013 #94

To a supporter of two parties that makes sense - TBF Jul 2013 #102

I have always been part of the "left" and there has never been a moment when I hated him. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #50

Carter was despised by Tip O'Neill and Ted Kennedy - liberal heroes... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #51

Yep, if we could just get rid of the left this country would be a paradise n/t Fumesucker Jul 2013 #95

The only time I hated Jimmy Carter was during the Muriel boat lift RebelOne Jul 2013 #52

I think you're mixed up. snot Jul 2013 #54

Yep. Conservatives hated Carter. Not the left. Zorra Jul 2013 #55

Funny how people have selective memories on this subject. Rex Jul 2013 #58

I know what you mean. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #68

I don't know about the Left, but some conservative dems Rex Jul 2013 #57

The left went for Ted Kennedy in 1980 and the party never united before the election. Zen Democrat Jul 2013 #60

thx, sounds like Kennedy didn't want to help Carter at all uponit7771 Jul 2013 #66

He didn't, but there was little chance the country would reelect Carter anyway. Deep13 Jul 2013 #77

If The Inner Toobs Had Existed... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #61

Ding, ding, ding -- we have a winner! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2013 #79

Uh Oh... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #98

I'm going through a bad case of MIRT withdrawal. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2013 #100

I was sometimes dismayed by Carter, but I never hated him Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #62

Thanks for the informative post. I hadn't realized the friction between Carter and old guard. nt adirondacker Jul 2013 #65

Carter did have some say over interest rates. roamer65 Jul 2013 #73

Yeap, seems common; Carter was undercut by other dems wanting power too uponit7771 Jul 2013 #74

The official Democratic Party is simply so far removed from a major portion of the rank and file. Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #69

FUD? BlueToTheBone Jul 2013 #71

Sounds good to me, Gore running away from Clinton seems like he listened to the detractors uponit7771 Jul 2013 #75

Yes, his arrogance cost us the world. BlueToTheBone Jul 2013 #83

No, he listened to the Turd Way. Come on now, this was just a little while back. TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #92

Yes, he was significantly more conservative than LBJ on social spending. Deep13 Jul 2013 #76

Don't recall 'hate,' elleng Jul 2013 #78

What I remember..Mr.Carter was considered by nearly all as a Moral Man, but that isn't what... Tikki Jul 2013 #80

Yup, you have it right. Carter scolded us for our materialistic ways. roamer65 Jul 2013 #82

I find it amusing that people don't know........... Historic NY Jul 2013 #84

Yeah, remember when Democrats were so Democratic that Carter seemed like a rightist? MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #86

I recommend everyone view President Carter's July 15, 1979 speech. roamer65 Jul 2013 #87

The Democratic Party Beltway brats hated Carter primaried him and when he won they all Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #90

The Carter era, as I recall it, was marked by enormous political apathy struggle4progress Jul 2013 #93

Translation: The left are just haters who never loved Obama Marrah_G Jul 2013 #101

He was primaried by Ted Kennedy for being a deregulator Recursion Jul 2013 #103

When disingenuous callouts go bad... Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #105