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flamingdem

(40,877 posts)
23. I had to research since I'm not up on Leninism being
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jul 2013

an authoritarian and all my preference is for Stalin!

But this came up in a search:

Is libertarianism an infantile disorder?


In the excerpt below the very level-headed Mark Krikorian says it is:
I think libertarianism is an infantile disorder, an "ideology" in the worst, anti-Burkean sense of the word. That is not to say that many Americans who call themselves "libertarians" share that disorder — I think the appeal of the label comes from the Republican Party's pathetic big-government record over the past couple of decades. Despite the many patriotic Americans who call themselves "libertarians" as a kind of protest, the ideology of libertarianISM is a post-American creed that rejects national borders and nationhood itself.

Krikorian is of course alluding to "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder", a book by V.I. Lenin in which Lenin criticizes the more idealistic and less practical Communists of his day.

I am inclined to agree with Krikorian. The level of hate and fanaticism that I regularly read in libertarian publications can sometimes be quite nauseating. Ideas of moderation and compromise are a rarity. As I myself am very much a minimum government conservative I find a lot of libertarian analyses helpful so I will not go on a rampage of finger-pointing and naming names but some of the writers on Lew Rockwell's site (for instance) regularly sound distinctly unpleasant to me. Take this article by Karen de Coster for instance. It absolutely drips hate and dogmatism. She is admittedly an extreme food fanatic as much as she is a libertarian but that seems to pass muster among at least some libertarians. Their very Leftist contempt for the society they live in makes them disrespectful of scientific caution so food and health fads seem to flourish among them.

I will not go on but those who read much libertarian literature will know well why libertarians are and will remain a tiny minority in politics. Which is all the more a pity because a more moderate presentation might help in the great struggle against government and for the individual that is afoot in America today

An important caveat, however, is that there are as many versions of libertarianism as there are libertarians and there are a minority of libertarians who manage to keep their feet on the ground. There are, for instance, some libertarians who oppose unrestricted immigration, though that is far from the majority position among libertarians.

http://dissectleft.blogspot.com/2012/08/is-libertarianism-infantile-disorder-in.html

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Subtitled 'What was I THINKING?' randome Jul 2013 #1
Here's one by Dovstoyevski the lawyer forgot flamingdem Jul 2013 #2
Hopefully they gave him some DVDs, too. randome Jul 2013 #5
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I do think they are fucking with him--they want him to go home. They don't really want to help him. MADem Jul 2013 #4
Yes, it seemed to start when RT said he could stay in the airport indefinately flamingdem Jul 2013 #6
When Putin's OPPOSITION says "Get the hell outta here," he's got to feel like he's been hung out to MADem Jul 2013 #10
Snowden won't see a reference to Lenin's "Left-Wing Communism: an Infantile Disorder" struggle4progress Jul 2013 #19
I had to research since I'm not up on Leninism being flamingdem Jul 2013 #23
Why would Snowden expect support from the pro-Western faction? JVS Jul 2013 #49
People who oppose Pootie aren't necessarily pro-Western. MADem Jul 2013 #50
Novaya Gazetta is though. JVS Jul 2013 #52
No it isn't. They're an investigative paper. Their focus is Russia--politicians, criminals, etc. MADem Jul 2013 #54
No Russia runs on Russian time.... Historic NY Jul 2013 #26
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