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33. ??? What are you talking about. He reported TORTURE. It was his duty to do so.

Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:27 PM

Jul 2013

Whistle Blowers STEAL DOCUMENTS, when their superiors ignore the crimes they are trying to report. That is how Whistle Blowing works. That is what Ellsberg did eg.

I guess you haven't followed this case.

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It's too bad that Bradley Manning didn't torture and kill people instead of telling us about it [View all] votesparks Jul 2013 OP

That's just about the truth. Autumn Jul 2013 #1

He'd have probably gotten a bunch of medals, too usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #39

Manning didn't even know what he was telling anybody railsback Jul 2013 #2

Keep telling yourself that.... think Jul 2013 #3

Why would I have to 'keep telling myself that..' railsback Jul 2013 #5

No he did not. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #8

It's always best when you don't much about an issue, not to make definitive declarations about it. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #28

Yeah, well, he wrote that during his court proceedings railsback Jul 2013 #37

Yes, there was mention of what he did, and why he did it in the chat logs. . sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #38

Killing the shit out of people to bring them democracy~! Hydra Jul 2013 #4

Well, Lynndie England, Charles Graner, et. al. weren't given the "awesome" treatment. MADem Jul 2013 #6

And Manning? You really think he's going to get as little as them? Th1onein Jul 2013 #10

Of course not. I think he'll get twenty, and do half that if he behaves. MADem Jul 2013 #11

I agree that it's always "silly" to make a bet you're not likely to win. And you're not. Th1onein Jul 2013 #12

I can wait for the outcome. You've already decided that it's "Off with his head." MADem Jul 2013 #13

Don't be rude to me, MADem. Th1onein Jul 2013 #18

I'm not being rude. Talk about rude, you're the one that snarked about MADem Jul 2013 #21

I'm not going to bother with you anymore. Read what you want to in my posts. Th1onein Jul 2013 #27

Ah, so you're not going to give me a real number, then? MADem Jul 2013 #31

I find it odd that you hold others to a higher standard of civility than you obviously hold yourself LanternWaste Aug 2013 #61

Have you ever asked why those that perpetuated the system that allowed truedelphi Jul 2013 #57

BGen Karpinski was demoted to Colonel, IIRC. MADem Jul 2013 #58

Since you yourself used the expression "two wrongs" I guess I am now entitled truedelphi Aug 2013 #59

No "morality" about it. MADem Aug 2013 #60

I think that anyone who has any inkling truedelphi Aug 2013 #62

You play the "compare and contrast" game, and overlay a moral imperative upon it, MADem Aug 2013 #63

If Manning hit a woman soldier or officer truedelphi Aug 2013 #67

What do you mean, "if?" He DID. And he stole classified material and transferred it MADem Aug 2013 #68

They tortured people. Manning reported torture. Big difference. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #32

I was responding, with specificity, to the OP's assertion that torturers are greeted as MADem Jul 2013 #34

I intended to say 'the Medal of Freedom'. It was given to people like Bremer, eg. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #35

The rare scapegoat convictions happened before Obama promised the CIA Dragonfli Jul 2013 #56

Yes. How dare he join the military and then protest that soldiers killed people. randome Jul 2013 #7

You really should watch this. Your heroes that Bradley fingered, in real life action! Zorra Jul 2013 #22

"that Bradley fingered" jberryhill Jul 2013 #26

You don't know the names? Of the War Criminals? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #36

The ones firing the shots in that video? jberryhill Jul 2013 #41

Who was president when these crimes were being committed on a regular basis in Iraq? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #43

Was that a secret that Manning revealed? jberryhill Jul 2013 #50

Yes, it was a secret the Government TRIED to keep by refusing for two years to release the video sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #51

And yet you still don't care who the names of the shooters are jberryhill Jul 2013 #52

Who ordered the shooters to fire on those people? Are you saying the same thing should sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #53

Ah, George W. Bush's voice is clearly audible in the video giving that order jberryhill Jul 2013 #54

Warning!! Godwin's law about to be invoked! For those who object to learning from history only. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #55

Yeh, you know, like, turned over the evidence? Just because the MIC didn't prosecute them and Zorra Jul 2013 #44

??? What are you talking about. He reported TORTURE. It was his duty to do so. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #33

War Crimes are Not only frowned upon by society in general, they are Illegal, too. (VIDEO) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #40

Bingo! You said it! Th1onein Jul 2013 #9

Good point. The drone pilots laughed when they blasted kids and reporters. Octafish Jul 2013 #14

Drones don't have pilots. They have remote operators. MADem Jul 2013 #17

And kids with reporters. I don't believe there were any kids involved in the Apache attack. randome Jul 2013 #19

No. The kids were hurt in the follow-up attack. Octafish Jul 2013 #23

There were two beautiful children who were left to die in the van, when those pilots shot their sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #47

"driving his children somewhere that day.." EX500rider Aug 2013 #73

Are you serious?? Even the US Government hasn't tried to come up with such nonsense. The sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #74

I had read somewhere that it had happened at 2am but.. EX500rider Aug 2013 #77

My mistake. Here's a link to the video. Octafish Jul 2013 #20

... SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #15

Ouch leftstreet Jul 2013 #16

He'd have his commission by now w/ a silver bar, and maybe a silver star kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #24

K and R bigwillq Jul 2013 #25

Ok, no. JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #29

John Burge of the Chicago Police Dept. tortured many blacks into confessing to murder mucifer Jul 2013 #30

It's too bad he also released hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables for no reason pnwmom Jul 2013 #42

It's too bad some modern day good American quasi-nazis believe that anything their government does, Zorra Jul 2013 #45

No one here is in that category. Everyone I know agrees that the helicopter videos pnwmom Jul 2013 #46

Honestly, I haven't seen any evidence of that among strong supporters of the MIC here. Zorra Jul 2013 #48

Then why didn't he release more info about "unspeakably wicked things" pnwmom Jul 2013 #49

I don't see anyone on this thread calling you names. MADem Aug 2013 #64

I'd be disgusted if my caliber as a sentient being was so low and easily transparent TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #65

Here's the bottom line. People that get rude and personal aren't taken seriously. nt MADem Aug 2013 #66

Unless they agree with you and then it is cool and froody or else by some strange definition TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #71

People who get rude and personal are not taken seriously. MADem Aug 2013 #72

True, your nasty running crew is a joke. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #78

You have one of those nice days, now. nt MADem Aug 2013 #79

And when a person considers all the puppet strings attached to that truedelphi Aug 2013 #75

A prisoner exchange should be in order. Manning exchanges his cell for Dubya's ranch. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #69

Sounds about right. You can kill for the government. You just can't tell the citizens of said liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #70

he did Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #76