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Fumesucker

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4. Snowden hasn't been convicted of anything and you want him apprehended

Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:02 AM

Jul 2013

You certainly have left no doubt about that at all.

And yet you are quibbling over another case where the legal niceties have already been fulfilled, the suspect found guilty and the legal punishment determined.

Funny how that works, innit?

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Panama tries to arrest CIA agent on Interpol warrant, USA flies him to safety. [View all] HiPointDem Jul 2013 OP

Taking American foreign aid comes with a price. former9thward Jul 2013 #1

Who is taking foreign aid? And how much? What are you talking about? Do you have a link? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #52

Panama is taking it. former9thward Jul 2013 #78

Convicted in absentia and received a 9 year sentence? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #2

Well, some of you would cheer, and demand that Snowden get to prison now. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #3

I just think convicting people in absentia and sentencing them to prison is absurd Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5

What about Osama Bin Laden? n/t Hydra Jul 2013 #9

Was Bin Laden ever convicted in US federal court in absentia? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #11

Back in the bad old days of the Bush Admin, someone told me they had Hydra Jul 2013 #28

ira einhorn was convicted in absentia. also i believe a bunch of supposed terrorists were HiPointDem Jul 2013 #16

I know conviction in absentia happens. That's not my point Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #17

He fled from Italy to avoid prosecution and admitted to the Italian press think Jul 2013 #31

And Snowden fled the US to avoid prosecution Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #32

Yes,it would bother me that a whistleblower would be prosecuted in absentia think Jul 2013 #34

It's a pretty simple legal construct. reusrename Jul 2013 #71

He will, no doubt, receive a generous government pension for his "service." JDPriestly Jul 2013 #55

I may agree with you however... Savannahmann Jul 2013 #29

So you say Lady was tried in absentia because he fled Italy Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #51

So try him in absentia Savannahmann Jul 2013 #57

How would you feel if Snowden was tried and convicted and sentenced to prison in absentia? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #59

Much better actually. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #62

I'm opposed to black prison sites and torture. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #64

Exactly, he would be free to speak to the press and the public. reusrename Jul 2013 #73

Anwar Al-Awlaki was tried in absentia in a Yemeni court. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #44

Did that put a smile on my face? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #46

What about assassination w/out a trial? OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #47

I'm utterly opposed to summary executions Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #49

Well, you're consistent in your opinion. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #50

Snowden hasn't been convicted of anything and you want him apprehended Fumesucker Jul 2013 #4

Apprehension is not conviction. I don't think the Federal govt will convict him in absentia. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #6

I believe Italy has a somewhat different legal system than the US Fumesucker Jul 2013 #8

I'm not familiar with Italian law Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #10

Where did I cheer anything? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #12

Oh trust me....you would throw a shit fit if Snowden was convicted in absentia Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #13

You have more OPs on Snowwald than I have total posts on the entire subject of Snowwald and NSA Fumesucker Jul 2013 #14

Conviction and sentencing of a CIA agent in absentia is OK! Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #15

Where did I say that? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #20

LOL. Where did I say Italy was not a democracy or the Italian govt broke Italian law? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #23

It has been your contention for some time now that the law is the law Fumesucker Jul 2013 #25

You think you know a lot about me. I'm flattered. I honestly don't even know who you are. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #30

Oh, you're memorable all right Fumesucker Jul 2013 #33

Thank you again for letting me know my posts are memorable Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #35

It's good to have goals, we all have a purpose in life Fumesucker Jul 2013 #36

So you don't like my posts Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #37

You repeat yourself when you're flustered Fumesucker Jul 2013 #39

You think I'm flustered? Hahahahahaha Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #40

After thinking about it a bit more I may have misjudged you Fumesucker Jul 2013 #43

LOL. You really think you know me. I am honestly flattered Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #45

US courts convict in absentia too. For example, if the defendant skips out on the trial, in some HiPointDem Jul 2013 #21

By the Italian courts, no less. Amanda Knox, anyone? Lady sounds scummy DevonRex Jul 2013 #7

US courts can & do convict people in absentia. also sentence them to life sentences. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #18

And it's stupid and shouldn't happen unless the defendant is present. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #19

may be. but it's irrelevant to the OP. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #22

My opinion about conviction in absentia is not relevant to the OP.... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #24

no. you're just engaged in diversion. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #26

LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #27

Nice edit almost 20 minutes after my post Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #41

so what? i wasn't trying to hide it, the times are there for you & everyone else to see. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #42

Way to miss my point. I never said the US didn't convict people in absentia Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #48

i can edit my posts anytime i please. everyone knows you're just diverting. and your HiPointDem Jul 2013 #58

Like I said Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #61

laughingstock HiPointDem Jul 2013 #66

if your aim is to make more people believe the US government & its operatives are just a gang HiPointDem Jul 2013 #67

No...I'm merely point out the hypocrisy emanating from people like yourself Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #70

you're just doing crap diversion like the rest of your gang & i won't engage with it again. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #72

You won't answer my question because it would directly reveal your hypocrisy Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #74

LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #69

The point is that Lady was helped to escape extradition and a trial, yet the US JDPriestly Jul 2013 #53

The hypocrisy I see... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #56

except no one has been insisting lady return to italy. possibly because the media & government, HiPointDem Jul 2013 #60

Wait? From your OP... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #63

since you missed the edit: the US protects mass murderers and terrorists from extradition: HiPointDem Jul 2013 #65

You didn't answer my question and instead you posted about Mr. Avila Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #68

Your tax dollars at work. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #38

K & R ~ nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #54

I dont get it. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #75

Rumsfeld and Cheney told us as much n/t malaise Jul 2013 #76

Funny how the "it was war" excuse never holds up during peace time if the premise Baitball Blogger Jul 2013 #77