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jsmirman

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19. If this is true

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 04:27 AM

Feb 2012

I'm sorry - fuck reason - there are a lot of people I'd like to punch repeatedly in the face.

A girl who died because of her Jewishness - and now you want to fuck with her right to choose her own religion?

As a Jew, I am sorry, but I find this not just in poor taste, but a mortal insult.

And I think this is where also there is confusion for some about the difference between a religion and a race. We are a race, and the world has never let us forget it.

This is unacceptable.

Although I will instead share what I find a more interesting, curious, and worthwhile and musically-wonderful Anne Frank revival (actually, two of them):

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Report: Mormons Posthumously Baptize Anne Frank (this past Saturday) [View all] Tx4obama Feb 2012 OP

Someone should sue the Mormon Church for desecrating the dead. . . Journeyman Feb 2012 #1

I swear, I'm putting a clause in my will... Initech Feb 2012 #69

Fine. I unbaptize her. Duer 157099 Feb 2012 #2

Don't forget desecrated water and an ungodly-parent. DetlefK Feb 2012 #31

That gives me an idea. Fight Fire with Fire. Mass Mormon Un-Baptismals Countdown_3_2_1 Feb 2012 #38

Bill Maher performed an "unbaptism" on an episode of Real Time a couple weeks ago. Initech Feb 2012 #71

These things make me sick sakabatou Feb 2012 #3

It says lots about them. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #4

It's disgusting. Bonobo Feb 2012 #6

People also once killed over shellfish and how crops were planted. boppers Feb 2012 #12

Yes, that is certainly true that people "Shouldn't care" Bonobo Feb 2012 #15

Well, this is boundary/personal, but I have devoted myself to Omnism. boppers Feb 2012 #18

And that's great, but... Bonobo Feb 2012 #20

Interesting test case.... boppers Feb 2012 #22

You hit the nail on the head, I think. Bonobo Feb 2012 #23

The anxiety, fear, uneasiness caused by PTSD won't go away by wishing. One inhabits an shcrane71 Feb 2012 #50

CORRECT Skittles Feb 2012 #26

I'm not sure that is the word malaise Feb 2012 #37

It says that no other religion is safe under Mormon rule. aquart Feb 2012 #78

I just initiated Mitt Romney into the Church of Satan Hugabear Feb 2012 #5

I know I must be missing the obvious here, but why polly7 Feb 2012 #7

It's their belief customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #34

for starters, I think the LDS in some weird way is flexing the political muscle Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #41

My fantasy is more powerful than your fantasy! ashling Feb 2012 #8

A silly but harmless practice. Everyone should chill the fuck out ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #9

This is incredibly offensive to the families of the deceased. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #13

I wouldn't give a shit if the Mormons did this "to" any of my dead relatives ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #49

Bingo Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #53

maybe if your relatives had been killed due to their relgion dsc Feb 2012 #106

so the phrase "respect for the dead" has no meaning to you? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #14

Hey, what's respect when there is soul-beancounting at stake! JHB Feb 2012 #32

LOL! Duzy lunatica Feb 2012 #35

Actually this is respect to the dead for them ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #48

This is respectful? Bullshit. Hugabear Feb 2012 #82

See post #12. It is my response to you as well. Bonobo Feb 2012 #16

She and millions of others were murdered because they were Jews... Princess Turandot Feb 2012 #21

LOL it does not "effectively make her a non-Jew" ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #47

You do know they also baptized Hitler and Stalin. golddigger Feb 2012 #42

A perfect heaven Sheepshank Feb 2012 #83

No more and no less than urinating on a grave, burning a flag or book, or Westboro picketing a funer LanternWaste Feb 2012 #58

"Again" boppers Feb 2012 #10

It's the symoblism HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #11

The LDS thinking is a bit flipped from that. boppers Feb 2012 #17

I still think HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #24

Most religions assume they have the "truth". boppers Feb 2012 #28

Three ideas is mine, not theirs. boppers Feb 2012 #30

I think it shows disrespect for the living jmowreader Feb 2012 #70

If this is true jsmirman Feb 2012 #19

Choice is exactly what the mormons think they are offering her metalbot Feb 2012 #45

I'm a Jew, I don't want to be baptized/Btw, people should check out the music jsmirman Feb 2012 #57

I think what Bill Maher did was perfect several weeks ago, unbaptize mittens /nt still_one Feb 2012 #25

weird , so do they believe by doing this Anne Frank will no longer be Jewish or what? JI7 Feb 2012 #27

They believe that a person is given a choice in the afterlife ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #64

She had choices while living HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #85

Mormons should posthumously baptize Jon Huntsman's political career. Bucky Feb 2012 #29

is there a way.to check their database Danmel Feb 2012 #33

No, it is done in secret jberryhill Feb 2012 #36

That's 100% false - all temple ordinance work is public, anyone can look it up FreeState Feb 2012 #67

I can't find a dead baptized person there jberryhill Feb 2012 #73

It's in their Wiki FreeState Feb 2012 #76

Which says you can't get them... jberryhill Feb 2012 #79

That's talking about "Restricted" records - which the wiki says are people that have living FreeState Feb 2012 #88

I don't know how you'd find her, but the woman mentioned in the OP, Helen Radky riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #46

They also baptized Adolf Hitler. YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #39

Is there a reason it's been done repeatedly? Skinner Feb 2012 #40

I was baptized twice ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #63

It's only done once, more than likely a member searched for the information FreeState Feb 2012 #68

Ann Romneys athiest father was also "Dead Dunked" by LDS. Snarkoleptic Feb 2012 #43

I'm sure she would be thrilled. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #44

new business idea Johonny Feb 2012 #51

Great idea! Right up there with pet care for raptured pet owners. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #96

I'm as worried about Mormon posthumous baptism as I'm worried about Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #52

Well that depends on just how bad you have been... truebrit71 Feb 2012 #60

This so offensive on so many levels... joeybee12 Feb 2012 #54

Where's the outrage over baptizing babies then? ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #62

That's all well and good jsmirman Feb 2012 #66

nothing says "irreversible" like a ritual circumcision waddirum Feb 2012 #72

Just when they seemed to be gaining some mainstream acceptance... TwilightGardener Feb 2012 #55

Mormonism - Making Scientology look reasonable one day at a time. smirkymonkey Feb 2012 #84

Know what this is like? Telemarketing. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #56

Fine, I just unbaptized her....are we square now? truebrit71 Feb 2012 #59

so? mike_c Feb 2012 #61

a strange religion is Mormonism paulk Feb 2012 #65

Convert a dead Mormon to gay here -> IDemo Feb 2012 #74

I'd always read that the reasoning behind the Baptismal of the Dead justiceischeap Feb 2012 #75

Anne's dead. Hard to desecrate her corpse more than it already was. aquart Feb 2012 #77

In poor taste? Sure. A big deal? Nope. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #80

As a Jew, I am disgusted by these critiques of my outrage jsmirman Feb 2012 #87

An explanation. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #89

They are precisely chosen analogies jsmirman Feb 2012 #90

I think you chose, well...poorly. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #92

I'm not going to take this any further other than jsmirman Feb 2012 #93

But they *can't* mess with her in a past, actual, after, or future life. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #97

Here is the bottom line. Bonobo Feb 2012 #95

I'm not telling you how you are supposed to feel. I simply voiced my opinion. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #98

Right. And my opinion is that it is also offensive to minimize it. Bonobo Feb 2012 #99

Hm...I think we still have poor analogies. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #100

You know, I'd appreciate it if you would stop insulting my analogies jsmirman Feb 2012 #101

How exactly do you insult (of all things) an analogy? Disagreement =/= Insult. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #102

Oh, I throw my hands up jsmirman Feb 2012 #103

For what it's worth, I feel much the same...in a vice-versa sort of way. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #104

I agree with you unreservedly. +1 million. nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #91

This is really funny auburngrad82 Feb 2012 #81

Well. they know in their great wisdom that she had the wrong religion and that she's suffering... JNathanK Feb 2012 #86

Theological necrophilia TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #94

I thought you had to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #105