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Cali_Democrat

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17. I know conviction in absentia happens. That's not my point

Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:46 AM

Jul 2013

My point is that the defendant should be in court to defend themselves before the legal process should proceed.

That's MY opinion.

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Panama tries to arrest CIA agent on Interpol warrant, USA flies him to safety. [View all] HiPointDem Jul 2013 OP

Taking American foreign aid comes with a price. former9thward Jul 2013 #1

Who is taking foreign aid? And how much? What are you talking about? Do you have a link? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #52

Panama is taking it. former9thward Jul 2013 #78

Convicted in absentia and received a 9 year sentence? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #2

Well, some of you would cheer, and demand that Snowden get to prison now. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #3

I just think convicting people in absentia and sentencing them to prison is absurd Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5

What about Osama Bin Laden? n/t Hydra Jul 2013 #9

Was Bin Laden ever convicted in US federal court in absentia? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #11

Back in the bad old days of the Bush Admin, someone told me they had Hydra Jul 2013 #28

ira einhorn was convicted in absentia. also i believe a bunch of supposed terrorists were HiPointDem Jul 2013 #16

I know conviction in absentia happens. That's not my point Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #17

He fled from Italy to avoid prosecution and admitted to the Italian press think Jul 2013 #31

And Snowden fled the US to avoid prosecution Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #32

Yes,it would bother me that a whistleblower would be prosecuted in absentia think Jul 2013 #34

It's a pretty simple legal construct. reusrename Jul 2013 #71

He will, no doubt, receive a generous government pension for his "service." JDPriestly Jul 2013 #55

I may agree with you however... Savannahmann Jul 2013 #29

So you say Lady was tried in absentia because he fled Italy Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #51

So try him in absentia Savannahmann Jul 2013 #57

How would you feel if Snowden was tried and convicted and sentenced to prison in absentia? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #59

Much better actually. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #62

I'm opposed to black prison sites and torture. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #64

Exactly, he would be free to speak to the press and the public. reusrename Jul 2013 #73

Anwar Al-Awlaki was tried in absentia in a Yemeni court. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #44

Did that put a smile on my face? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #46

What about assassination w/out a trial? OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #47

I'm utterly opposed to summary executions Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #49

Well, you're consistent in your opinion. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #50

Snowden hasn't been convicted of anything and you want him apprehended Fumesucker Jul 2013 #4

Apprehension is not conviction. I don't think the Federal govt will convict him in absentia. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #6

I believe Italy has a somewhat different legal system than the US Fumesucker Jul 2013 #8

I'm not familiar with Italian law Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #10

Where did I cheer anything? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #12

Oh trust me....you would throw a shit fit if Snowden was convicted in absentia Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #13

You have more OPs on Snowwald than I have total posts on the entire subject of Snowwald and NSA Fumesucker Jul 2013 #14

Conviction and sentencing of a CIA agent in absentia is OK! Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #15

Where did I say that? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #20

LOL. Where did I say Italy was not a democracy or the Italian govt broke Italian law? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #23

It has been your contention for some time now that the law is the law Fumesucker Jul 2013 #25

You think you know a lot about me. I'm flattered. I honestly don't even know who you are. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #30

Oh, you're memorable all right Fumesucker Jul 2013 #33

Thank you again for letting me know my posts are memorable Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #35

It's good to have goals, we all have a purpose in life Fumesucker Jul 2013 #36

So you don't like my posts Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #37

You repeat yourself when you're flustered Fumesucker Jul 2013 #39

You think I'm flustered? Hahahahahaha Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #40

After thinking about it a bit more I may have misjudged you Fumesucker Jul 2013 #43

LOL. You really think you know me. I am honestly flattered Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #45

US courts convict in absentia too. For example, if the defendant skips out on the trial, in some HiPointDem Jul 2013 #21

By the Italian courts, no less. Amanda Knox, anyone? Lady sounds scummy DevonRex Jul 2013 #7

US courts can & do convict people in absentia. also sentence them to life sentences. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #18

And it's stupid and shouldn't happen unless the defendant is present. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #19

may be. but it's irrelevant to the OP. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #22

My opinion about conviction in absentia is not relevant to the OP.... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #24

no. you're just engaged in diversion. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #26

LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #27

Nice edit almost 20 minutes after my post Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #41

so what? i wasn't trying to hide it, the times are there for you & everyone else to see. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #42

Way to miss my point. I never said the US didn't convict people in absentia Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #48

i can edit my posts anytime i please. everyone knows you're just diverting. and your HiPointDem Jul 2013 #58

Like I said Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #61

laughingstock HiPointDem Jul 2013 #66

if your aim is to make more people believe the US government & its operatives are just a gang HiPointDem Jul 2013 #67

No...I'm merely point out the hypocrisy emanating from people like yourself Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #70

you're just doing crap diversion like the rest of your gang & i won't engage with it again. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #72

You won't answer my question because it would directly reveal your hypocrisy Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #74

LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #69

The point is that Lady was helped to escape extradition and a trial, yet the US JDPriestly Jul 2013 #53

The hypocrisy I see... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #56

except no one has been insisting lady return to italy. possibly because the media & government, HiPointDem Jul 2013 #60

Wait? From your OP... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #63

since you missed the edit: the US protects mass murderers and terrorists from extradition: HiPointDem Jul 2013 #65

You didn't answer my question and instead you posted about Mr. Avila Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #68

Your tax dollars at work. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #38

K & R ~ nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #54

I dont get it. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #75

Rumsfeld and Cheney told us as much n/t malaise Jul 2013 #76

Funny how the "it was war" excuse never holds up during peace time if the premise Baitball Blogger Jul 2013 #77