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sabrina 1

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47. There were two beautiful children who were left to die in the van, when those pilots shot their
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jul 2013

father, driving his children somewhere that day, seeing someone wounded on the ground, he tried to help him. Against the Rules of War when someone is wounded, and someone tries to help them, those pilots opened fire, finishing off the wounded man and killing the man who tried to help, the father of the children, and riddling the van with bullets, nearly fatally wounding those innocent children.

They were rescued by two heroes, two US soldiers who took it upon themselves when they saw the children dying in the van.

Both of those soldiers have spoken publicly about the crimes they say, happened all the time, not just day, but on a regular basis.

A documentary has been made about that awful day which has been seen around the world. The film-makers found the children wanting to know what had happened to them. The two soldiers apologized to the family. The US never contacted them.

The little girl appeared to be traumatized and her scars were visible as were the little boy's.

But the biggest trauma for them was the loss of their father.

The mother and the uncle who has taken them in, told the film makers that the van was their only means of getting around. The father's income now gone, they are struggling to take care of the children and the mother. The US Govt didn't even offer them a new van. They have trouble getting the children to the doctors they still need, or to any kind of counseling, without a car.

The US Government has never contacted them, never compensated them for their huge losses, and no counseling has ever been provided for those little children.

According to a public statement from one of the one of the soldiers when asked why he did what he did, he said 'I didn't lose my soul'.

It was a shameful crime with untold numbers of victims, and according the hero, the soldier who rescued the children, those crimes against innnocent Iraqis took place every day. That one was just filmed.

I often think of those little children .... I wonder why this country does these awful things to innocent people. And I wonder why the American people allow their government to do it in their name.

The documentary has recorded the events of that day and what happened afterwards to the victims, for history.

Only in America has it not been widely distributed. We won't bother our beautiful minds with the fate of two beautiful children who mean nothing to those who claim to represent us and to 'fighting for our freedoms'.

They do not represent me.

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That's just about the truth. Autumn Jul 2013 #1
He'd have probably gotten a bunch of medals, too usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #39
Manning didn't even know what he was telling anybody railsback Jul 2013 #2
Keep telling yourself that.... think Jul 2013 #3
Why would I have to 'keep telling myself that..' railsback Jul 2013 #5
No he did not. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #8
It's always best when you don't much about an issue, not to make definitive declarations about it. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #28
Yeah, well, he wrote that during his court proceedings railsback Jul 2013 #37
Yes, there was mention of what he did, and why he did it in the chat logs. . sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #38
Killing the shit out of people to bring them democracy~! Hydra Jul 2013 #4
Well, Lynndie England, Charles Graner, et. al. weren't given the "awesome" treatment. MADem Jul 2013 #6
And Manning? You really think he's going to get as little as them? Th1onein Jul 2013 #10
Of course not. I think he'll get twenty, and do half that if he behaves. MADem Jul 2013 #11
I agree that it's always "silly" to make a bet you're not likely to win. And you're not. Th1onein Jul 2013 #12
I can wait for the outcome. You've already decided that it's "Off with his head." MADem Jul 2013 #13
Don't be rude to me, MADem. Th1onein Jul 2013 #18
I'm not being rude. Talk about rude, you're the one that snarked about MADem Jul 2013 #21
I'm not going to bother with you anymore. Read what you want to in my posts. Th1onein Jul 2013 #27
Ah, so you're not going to give me a real number, then? MADem Jul 2013 #31
I find it odd that you hold others to a higher standard of civility than you obviously hold yourself LanternWaste Aug 2013 #61
Have you ever asked why those that perpetuated the system that allowed truedelphi Jul 2013 #57
BGen Karpinski was demoted to Colonel, IIRC. MADem Jul 2013 #58
Since you yourself used the expression "two wrongs" I guess I am now entitled truedelphi Aug 2013 #59
No "morality" about it. MADem Aug 2013 #60
I think that anyone who has any inkling truedelphi Aug 2013 #62
You play the "compare and contrast" game, and overlay a moral imperative upon it, MADem Aug 2013 #63
If Manning hit a woman soldier or officer truedelphi Aug 2013 #67
What do you mean, "if?" He DID. And he stole classified material and transferred it MADem Aug 2013 #68
They tortured people. Manning reported torture. Big difference. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #32
I was responding, with specificity, to the OP's assertion that torturers are greeted as MADem Jul 2013 #34
I intended to say 'the Medal of Freedom'. It was given to people like Bremer, eg. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #35
The rare scapegoat convictions happened before Obama promised the CIA Dragonfli Jul 2013 #56
Yes. How dare he join the military and then protest that soldiers killed people. randome Jul 2013 #7
You really should watch this. Your heroes that Bradley fingered, in real life action! Zorra Jul 2013 #22
"that Bradley fingered" jberryhill Jul 2013 #26
You don't know the names? Of the War Criminals? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #36
The ones firing the shots in that video? jberryhill Jul 2013 #41
Who was president when these crimes were being committed on a regular basis in Iraq? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #43
Was that a secret that Manning revealed? jberryhill Jul 2013 #50
Yes, it was a secret the Government TRIED to keep by refusing for two years to release the video sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #51
And yet you still don't care who the names of the shooters are jberryhill Jul 2013 #52
Who ordered the shooters to fire on those people? Are you saying the same thing should sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #53
Ah, George W. Bush's voice is clearly audible in the video giving that order jberryhill Jul 2013 #54
Warning!! Godwin's law about to be invoked! For those who object to learning from history only. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #55
Yeh, you know, like, turned over the evidence? Just because the MIC didn't prosecute them and Zorra Jul 2013 #44
??? What are you talking about. He reported TORTURE. It was his duty to do so. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #33
War Crimes are Not only frowned upon by society in general, they are Illegal, too. (VIDEO) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #40
Bingo! You said it! Th1onein Jul 2013 #9
Good point. The drone pilots laughed when they blasted kids and reporters. Octafish Jul 2013 #14
Drones don't have pilots. They have remote operators. MADem Jul 2013 #17
And kids with reporters. I don't believe there were any kids involved in the Apache attack. randome Jul 2013 #19
No. The kids were hurt in the follow-up attack. Octafish Jul 2013 #23
There were two beautiful children who were left to die in the van, when those pilots shot their sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #47
"driving his children somewhere that day.." EX500rider Aug 2013 #73
Are you serious?? Even the US Government hasn't tried to come up with such nonsense. The sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #74
I had read somewhere that it had happened at 2am but.. EX500rider Aug 2013 #77
My mistake. Here's a link to the video. Octafish Jul 2013 #20
... SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #15
Ouch leftstreet Jul 2013 #16
He'd have his commission by now w/ a silver bar, and maybe a silver star kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #24
K and R bigwillq Jul 2013 #25
Ok, no. JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #29
John Burge of the Chicago Police Dept. tortured many blacks into confessing to murder mucifer Jul 2013 #30
It's too bad he also released hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables for no reason pnwmom Jul 2013 #42
It's too bad some modern day good American quasi-nazis believe that anything their government does, Zorra Jul 2013 #45
No one here is in that category. Everyone I know agrees that the helicopter videos pnwmom Jul 2013 #46
Honestly, I haven't seen any evidence of that among strong supporters of the MIC here. Zorra Jul 2013 #48
Then why didn't he release more info about "unspeakably wicked things" pnwmom Jul 2013 #49
I don't see anyone on this thread calling you names. MADem Aug 2013 #64
I'd be disgusted if my caliber as a sentient being was so low and easily transparent TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #65
Here's the bottom line. People that get rude and personal aren't taken seriously. nt MADem Aug 2013 #66
Unless they agree with you and then it is cool and froody or else by some strange definition TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #71
People who get rude and personal are not taken seriously. MADem Aug 2013 #72
True, your nasty running crew is a joke. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #78
You have one of those nice days, now. nt MADem Aug 2013 #79
And when a person considers all the puppet strings attached to that truedelphi Aug 2013 #75
A prisoner exchange should be in order. Manning exchanges his cell for Dubya's ranch. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #69
Sounds about right. You can kill for the government. You just can't tell the citizens of said liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #70
he did Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #76
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