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In reply to the discussion: Report: Mormons Posthumously Baptize Anne Frank (this past Saturday) [View all]boppers
(16,588 posts)Both the husbandwife and I have dance and theater backgrounds, and both have done some pretty experimental/provocative works. I proposed marriage while s/he was paying for a performance of a naked woman to artistically display their genitalia to me. (Yes, we're kind of "those" people, which is how we wound up in Portland.)
My boundary for "obscene" is waaaaay out there. No fluid transfer, health risks? Cool. Woman or man or (etc.) waving naked genitals in my, or my spouses' face? Cool. Gestures really don't phase me.
Words, though, still do phase me, in specific tones. I don't mind being called a "bitch, fag, dyke, cunt, whore" (etc.) based on just the word, but based on past experience with tonalities, and a word, I can still be alarmed.
Mapping to gestures, I suppose it's the difference between not being upset by a hand forming a fist, and the fist being set in motion towards me in a invasive gesture.
Getting back to the OP topic, Judaism seems to have such a level of cultural PTSD that an obscure religion making them honorary members (or however you want to phrase it) is no longer a gesture, but a threat, because so many historic non-invasive gestures have led to eventual violence.