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In reply to the discussion: Obama Says Income Gap Is Fraying U.S. Social Fabric [View all]SunSeeker
(58,240 posts)189. Dean said "IPAB is essentially a healthcare rationing body" in Sunday's Wall Street Journal.
He did it via an Opinion piece attacking the ACA:
One major problem is the so-called Independent Payment Advisory Board. The IPAB is essentially a health-care rationing body. By setting doctor reimbursement rates for Medicare and determining which procedures and drugs will be covered and at what price, the IPAB will be able to stop certain treatments its members do not favor by simply setting rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them.
Here's the link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324110404578628542498014414.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
The LA Times rightfully ripped him for that, in an editorial on Monday entitled, "No, Howard Dean, Obamacare doesn't ration Medicare":
Republicans have said hyperbolic things about the 2010 healthcare law's Independent Payment Advisory Board so many times -- e.g., former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's declaration that it's a "death panel" -- that I've gotten inured to it. Nevertheless, it was a little startling to see some of the same facts-be-damned assertions coming from a liberal Democrat on the op-ed page of the Wall Street Journal.
Former Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean took to the Journal on Monday to attack the IPAB with the same blatant mischaracterizations that have been the hallmarks of the GOP attacks. The only real difference is that Dean did so after saying there was "much to applaud" in the 2010 law, including its (extremely expensive) push for universal health insurance coverage.
"The IPAB is essentially a healthcare rationing body," Dean blithely writes, despite the fact that the law flatly states the board cannot ration care. Specifically, any proposal the board makes to control Medicare's costs per beneficiary "shall not include any recommendation to ration healthcare, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums under section 1395i2, 1395i2a, or 1395r of this title, increase Medicare beneficiary cost-sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and copayments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria."
And while IPAB is expected to make recommendations every two years on how to slow the growth in healthcare costs across the industry, its authority to propose specific changes is limited to Medicare.
Dean goes on to say that IPAB will set reimbursement rates for Medicare doctors and "determine which procedures and drugs will be covered at what price."
But he's confusing the new board with mechanisms that already exist in Medicare to determine what's "medically reasonable and necessary" (a criteria for reimbursement) and what the government will pay for it. IPAB will be able to propose changes in the rate of growth for Medicare fees -- for doctors at first, and later for hospitals as well. It can also call for changes in the subsidies for Medicare Advantage plans and in the way Medicare calculates the proper price to pay for drugs. But as noted above, it can't restrict benefits or ration care.
The most remarkable -- and remarkably false -- critique in Dean's piece is the statement that the Congressional Budget Office has projected that the IPAB "won't save a single dime before 2021." That's because the CBO projects that Medicare costs per beneficiary will rise so slowly over the coming decade, they won't reach the threshold set in the law for the IPAB to act. It's not that the board will be ineffective, as Dean implies. It's that it won't be activated.
In the minds of Dean and other critics, the board has only one tool to control costs: set artificially low prices for medical care. And if that's all it does, I agree with Dean that it won't be effective. Price controls don't work very well in any context.
But that's not what the IPAB was created to do. It was designed to push systemic changes in Medicare, speeding the transformation from an inefficient system with misplaced incentives to one that rewards prevention and high-quality care. There's no clear way to do that, at least not today, but at the very least it means ending the fee-for-service approach that encourages providers to give more treatment to sicker patients, rather than keeping their customers healthy in the first place.
Like so many things about the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the IPAB has been wildly mischaracterized and misunderstood. Sadly, the mischaracterizations just keep coming, no matter how many times they're rebutted.
Former Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean took to the Journal on Monday to attack the IPAB with the same blatant mischaracterizations that have been the hallmarks of the GOP attacks. The only real difference is that Dean did so after saying there was "much to applaud" in the 2010 law, including its (extremely expensive) push for universal health insurance coverage.
"The IPAB is essentially a healthcare rationing body," Dean blithely writes, despite the fact that the law flatly states the board cannot ration care. Specifically, any proposal the board makes to control Medicare's costs per beneficiary "shall not include any recommendation to ration healthcare, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums under section 1395i2, 1395i2a, or 1395r of this title, increase Medicare beneficiary cost-sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and copayments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria."
And while IPAB is expected to make recommendations every two years on how to slow the growth in healthcare costs across the industry, its authority to propose specific changes is limited to Medicare.
Dean goes on to say that IPAB will set reimbursement rates for Medicare doctors and "determine which procedures and drugs will be covered at what price."
But he's confusing the new board with mechanisms that already exist in Medicare to determine what's "medically reasonable and necessary" (a criteria for reimbursement) and what the government will pay for it. IPAB will be able to propose changes in the rate of growth for Medicare fees -- for doctors at first, and later for hospitals as well. It can also call for changes in the subsidies for Medicare Advantage plans and in the way Medicare calculates the proper price to pay for drugs. But as noted above, it can't restrict benefits or ration care.
The most remarkable -- and remarkably false -- critique in Dean's piece is the statement that the Congressional Budget Office has projected that the IPAB "won't save a single dime before 2021." That's because the CBO projects that Medicare costs per beneficiary will rise so slowly over the coming decade, they won't reach the threshold set in the law for the IPAB to act. It's not that the board will be ineffective, as Dean implies. It's that it won't be activated.
In the minds of Dean and other critics, the board has only one tool to control costs: set artificially low prices for medical care. And if that's all it does, I agree with Dean that it won't be effective. Price controls don't work very well in any context.
But that's not what the IPAB was created to do. It was designed to push systemic changes in Medicare, speeding the transformation from an inefficient system with misplaced incentives to one that rewards prevention and high-quality care. There's no clear way to do that, at least not today, but at the very least it means ending the fee-for-service approach that encourages providers to give more treatment to sicker patients, rather than keeping their customers healthy in the first place.
Like so many things about the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the IPAB has been wildly mischaracterized and misunderstood. Sadly, the mischaracterizations just keep coming, no matter how many times they're rebutted.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-howard-dean-obamacare-ipab-wrong-20130729,0,6790127.story
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Too bad Obama played such a big part in exacerbating it by thowing money at the banks and not
chimpymustgo
Jul 2013
#1
Dean did not want to stay anyway, but that isn't why we lost the House in 2010.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#96
Howard Dean successfully implemented health care reform, he has studied it intensively.
dkf
Jul 2013
#105
Of course, just because he is a lobbyist now should not affect his credibility.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#106
Really? Was he telling truth when he said the "Ground Zero Mosque" was "a real affront..
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#109
Dean said "IPAB is essentially a healthcare rationing body" in Sunday's Wall Street Journal.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#189
So he didn't say it? Neither did I. Stop equating attempts to improve the law ...
Scuba
Jul 2013
#190
He DID say it. He LIED that the IPAB rations care, just like Sarah Palin did.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#191
You claimed Dean said the ACA includes death panels. Prove it or you're the liar.
Scuba
Jul 2013
#192
I asked you if you thought the ACA had a death panel. You did not answer my question.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#194
Candidate Obama voted for TARP, not Bush. TARP would not have passed without his support.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#119
TARP passed the Senate with 74 votes. Obama's vote is not what put it over the top.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#123
Obama represented the Democatic Party as it's nominee. It would not have passed without his support
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#124
1/2 the funds were given out during the Bush Administration. 1/2 DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#126
ALL of the funds were authorized under the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. OBAMA made the banks pay it back.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#137
All the funds were authorized under the Bush Administration WITH OBAMA'S ACTIVE PARTICIPATION.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#139
As the Democratic nominee and the representative of the Party, Obama voted for TARP, not Paulson.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#141
Are you suggesting that Paulson would not have voted for it after WRITING it?
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#152
No. OBAMA SUPPORTED TARP AS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. Bush could not have signed it without his help
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#155
Then you admit that Obama participated in writing TARP. Thank you. Finally.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#160
Re-read your #158 post. You AMITTED KNOWING Obama CHANGED the terms. You admitted knowing that
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#162
No, I said he changed the terms AFTER HE TOOK OFFICE, when he had the power to do so.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#163
You need to do more research. Obama changed Paulson's origional TARP before voting on it.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#164
Did you overlook Obama's Senate speech> "There will be time to punish those who set this fire, ..."
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#178
Obama's speech was to persuade Senate Democrats to vote for TARP. He was actively involved.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#180
He was acknowledging the emergency of the situation; that is not writing TARP.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#184
No, that was not writing TARP. His modifications to TARP were separate from his speech.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#185
A suspicious person might think it to be a form of the trickle-down theory.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#156
I can't recall any Gen.Wesley Clark, Gov. Dean, or Paul Krugman types being nominated to high-level
indepat
Jul 2013
#75
Not something a self-respecting republican would say. Income inequality is a good thing to a true
pampango
Jul 2013
#13
I'm sure his $9 minimum wage and global free trade deals will set us straight.
limpyhobbler
Jul 2013
#14
Single Payer Health care !! Takes employers off the hook ... why don't they support it.
YOHABLO
Jul 2013
#116
Obama's $9 wage: just enough to say he's not quite as bad as a Republican.
limpyhobbler
Jul 2013
#41
Yeah, he's all heart, isn't he? Meanwhile, repug sharks smell the SS blood in the water.
forestpath
Jul 2013
#159
He proposed a Wall Street tax? He proposed an Eisenhower sized infrastructure project?
Junkdrawer
Jul 2013
#35
Mean Republicans won't let him lead, so he'll accurately describe the problems...
Junkdrawer
Jul 2013
#36
Can we hold any hope that, at some time in the future, the corporate 'D' uber alles crowd
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2013
#52
...Ron Paul said he had a wand and that it worked so they believe him /sarcasm
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#144
So he plans to solve the problem by appointing Lawrence Summers as Fed chairman
tularetom
Jul 2013
#62
It's a done deal. "Evaluate" = "I'm going to delay telling you that I approve of it."
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#120
You'd think he was running for president instead of already having 5-1/2 years under his belt.
MotherPetrie
Jul 2013
#77
Alan Grayson TPP Secret Treaty “This Hands Sovereignty of Our Country Over to Corp Interests"
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#88
Was he standing under a "Mission Accomplished" banner when he said that? nt
NorthCarolina
Jul 2013
#115
The proof is in the pudding, let's just take the 2000 election since you mention that last
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#130
Yeah. Lieberman sucked ass. But that still didn't justify the left's hate of Al Gore.
Drunken Irishman
Jul 2013
#167
Obama did not "blow it"-He passed the ACA, with only 24 days of a filibuster proof majority.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#157
Would your brother prefer to not have universal health care? Obama could have achieved that.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#183
Great post, DI. Only one correction: Obama only had 24 working days of a filibuster proof majority
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#138
This is fudr, one of the first responses to the thread was Obama bailed out the banks...no really,
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#145
Full of leftist hypocrites who will bitch and moan no matter what outcome.
great white snark
Jul 2013
#151
by helping create jobs?! Or are you one of the left who agrees with wingers et al about the economy
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#146