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In reply to the discussion: Christians Will Be Subject To Arrest At The 2014 Olympics In Russia. [View all]pnwmom
(110,254 posts)53. Can you read Russian?
http://americablog.com/2013/07/russian-official-pro-gay-sochi-olympics-athletes-guests-face-arrest.html
In a disturbing development, a Russian lawmaker responsible for writing the St. Petersburg version of the new nationwide law that bans anything perceived as pro-gay in that country, said yesterday that the Russian government had no right to promise the International Olympic Committee (IOC) that the law would not be enforced against Olympic athletes and guests.
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The IOC had hoped to allay growing concerns over the possible arrest of, and violence towards, gay and gay-friendly Olympic athletes and guests by assuring the world last week that the Russians had granted an exemption to the anti-gay for Olympic attendees. Of course, even were such an exemption real and we now know that it is not the Russians can give no credible assurances that the anti-gay skinhead thugs that theyve enabled wont beat gay Olympic athletes and Olympic visitors to a bloody pulp.
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The International Olympic Committee, in what appears to be a growing panic over the deteriorating human rights, and safety, situation in Russia, has now issued a public letter stating that it is engaged in active discussion to secure the safety of Olympic athletes and guests during the Sochi Olympics.
But as noted above, such assurances are meaningless unless the IOC has suddenly found the power to strike down Russian federal law, and control the countrys anti-gay neo-Nazi thugs.
In a disturbing development, a Russian lawmaker responsible for writing the St. Petersburg version of the new nationwide law that bans anything perceived as pro-gay in that country, said yesterday that the Russian government had no right to promise the International Olympic Committee (IOC) that the law would not be enforced against Olympic athletes and guests.
SNIP
The IOC had hoped to allay growing concerns over the possible arrest of, and violence towards, gay and gay-friendly Olympic athletes and guests by assuring the world last week that the Russians had granted an exemption to the anti-gay for Olympic attendees. Of course, even were such an exemption real and we now know that it is not the Russians can give no credible assurances that the anti-gay skinhead thugs that theyve enabled wont beat gay Olympic athletes and Olympic visitors to a bloody pulp.
SNIP
The International Olympic Committee, in what appears to be a growing panic over the deteriorating human rights, and safety, situation in Russia, has now issued a public letter stating that it is engaged in active discussion to secure the safety of Olympic athletes and guests during the Sochi Olympics.
But as noted above, such assurances are meaningless unless the IOC has suddenly found the power to strike down Russian federal law, and control the countrys anti-gay neo-Nazi thugs.
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Christians Will Be Subject To Arrest At The 2014 Olympics In Russia. [View all]
DonRedwood
Jul 2013
OP
I think Gay people in sports need to start talking about this. Gay trainers who will have to go to
hrmjustin
Jul 2013
#5
Straight Society does not believe that oppression of LGBT people is the same as oppression of
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#3
I'm asking you to admit in writing that I said NOTHING about DU as you accused me of
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#119
I agree that GLBT -- and their children, who lack the legal protections other children have --
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#68
I agree that GLBT are second class citizens. But that doesn't mean that all straight people
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#75
Gay society and staight society does not mean all gay or straight people are the same
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#86
Again, I did not say 'all' nor did I say 'uniform anti gay'. Those are your words, argue with
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#120
Yes, but if the law had been on the books they probably would not have been chosen
DonRedwood
Jul 2013
#26
So we should wait till they abuse or imprison gay athletes -- insulting and denigrating gay people
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#56
"If" they enforce the law? You think we should take a chance with our athletes? n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#55
Did you read this:"the law apparently allows only a fourteen day detention and deportation"
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#82
This ain't smoke--there are actual LAWS that are anti-GLBT on the books in that regime.
MADem
Aug 2013
#123
Nope you can't, holding hands is apparently gay propaganda according to the law n/t
Kurska
Jul 2013
#11
Holding hands is a public social protest? Because the law explicility covers that.
Kurska
Jul 2013
#31
No, you're definitely lying. It is illegal to identify as homosexual in Russia.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#39
Absolute BS, It makes it illegal to do or say ANYTHING positive about gay people
Kurska
Jul 2013
#10
If you want me to stop accusing you of lying, I suggest you start by not lying anymore.
Kurska
Jul 2013
#50
Link you cited and additional links in cited article support position that law was intended to ban
maui902
Jul 2013
#102
and those two gay men, what if one has to go to the hospital. Can the other visit?
DonRedwood
Jul 2013
#12
It is literally illegal for my partner and I to go to Russia and hold hands
justiceischeap
Jul 2013
#14
The whole point is....Olympians are supposed to go everywhere. Not be terrified to compete
DonRedwood
Jul 2013
#33
Maybe they should be terrified of the roaving bands of skinheads kidnapping and torturing gay youth?
Kurska
Jul 2013
#45
It's worse in Russia because the violence against Shepherd wasn't state sponsored or sanctioned.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#69
That's extremely dishonest. Private people commit heinous crimes all the time. This is a state issue
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#70
This isn't just a personal issue. The whole US Olympic team needs to not go there.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#52
You cannot divide public and private sexuality. It is collectively a persons sexual/social identity.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#34
Why are you so insistent on splitting hairs? That seems to be the real problem.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#83
Why do you think they still have all the ritual, pomp and circumstance around the torch?
backscatter712
Jul 2013
#117
Seems rather explicit as to intent and anticipates any kind of behavior covered in the law.
Ford_Prefect
Jul 2013
#79
That they are planning to arrest gay and Christian Olympic participants?
another_liberal
Jul 2013
#108
Not Christian - the OP was using that as an example of the outrage that would happen if
dbackjon
Jul 2013
#109