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ButterflyBlood

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47. LOL it does not "effectively make her a non-Jew"

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:45 AM

Feb 2012

By that logic I could remove Islam or Buddhism from the world if I wanted to by getting some friends to "baptize" me while pretending to be Mohammad or Buddha (actually no doubt Mormons have already done that). Or some former Pope (though once again probably has already been done.) You can not change one's identity posthumously by dunking someone in water pretending to be that person. That is just silly.

I don't see the difference between this and baptizing babies anyway, in neither case can consent be given. I was baptized as a baby into a church that I don't want anything whatsoever to do with, but that has no effect on me today, I haven't gone to a Catholic mass since high school (so almost 10 years ago) and was actually baptized into my new church last week.

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Report: Mormons Posthumously Baptize Anne Frank (this past Saturday) [View all] Tx4obama Feb 2012 OP

Someone should sue the Mormon Church for desecrating the dead. . . Journeyman Feb 2012 #1

I swear, I'm putting a clause in my will... Initech Feb 2012 #69

Fine. I unbaptize her. Duer 157099 Feb 2012 #2

Don't forget desecrated water and an ungodly-parent. DetlefK Feb 2012 #31

That gives me an idea. Fight Fire with Fire. Mass Mormon Un-Baptismals Countdown_3_2_1 Feb 2012 #38

Bill Maher performed an "unbaptism" on an episode of Real Time a couple weeks ago. Initech Feb 2012 #71

These things make me sick sakabatou Feb 2012 #3

It says lots about them. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #4

It's disgusting. Bonobo Feb 2012 #6

People also once killed over shellfish and how crops were planted. boppers Feb 2012 #12

Yes, that is certainly true that people "Shouldn't care" Bonobo Feb 2012 #15

Well, this is boundary/personal, but I have devoted myself to Omnism. boppers Feb 2012 #18

And that's great, but... Bonobo Feb 2012 #20

Interesting test case.... boppers Feb 2012 #22

You hit the nail on the head, I think. Bonobo Feb 2012 #23

The anxiety, fear, uneasiness caused by PTSD won't go away by wishing. One inhabits an shcrane71 Feb 2012 #50

CORRECT Skittles Feb 2012 #26

I'm not sure that is the word malaise Feb 2012 #37

It says that no other religion is safe under Mormon rule. aquart Feb 2012 #78

I just initiated Mitt Romney into the Church of Satan Hugabear Feb 2012 #5

I know I must be missing the obvious here, but why polly7 Feb 2012 #7

It's their belief customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #34

for starters, I think the LDS in some weird way is flexing the political muscle Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #41

My fantasy is more powerful than your fantasy! ashling Feb 2012 #8

A silly but harmless practice. Everyone should chill the fuck out ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #9

This is incredibly offensive to the families of the deceased. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #13

I wouldn't give a shit if the Mormons did this "to" any of my dead relatives ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #49

Bingo Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #53

maybe if your relatives had been killed due to their relgion dsc Feb 2012 #106

so the phrase "respect for the dead" has no meaning to you? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #14

Hey, what's respect when there is soul-beancounting at stake! JHB Feb 2012 #32

LOL! Duzy lunatica Feb 2012 #35

Actually this is respect to the dead for them ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #48

This is respectful? Bullshit. Hugabear Feb 2012 #82

See post #12. It is my response to you as well. Bonobo Feb 2012 #16

She and millions of others were murdered because they were Jews... Princess Turandot Feb 2012 #21

LOL it does not "effectively make her a non-Jew" ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #47

You do know they also baptized Hitler and Stalin. golddigger Feb 2012 #42

A perfect heaven Sheepshank Feb 2012 #83

No more and no less than urinating on a grave, burning a flag or book, or Westboro picketing a funer LanternWaste Feb 2012 #58

"Again" boppers Feb 2012 #10

It's the symoblism HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #11

The LDS thinking is a bit flipped from that. boppers Feb 2012 #17

I still think HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #24

Most religions assume they have the "truth". boppers Feb 2012 #28

Three ideas is mine, not theirs. boppers Feb 2012 #30

I think it shows disrespect for the living jmowreader Feb 2012 #70

If this is true jsmirman Feb 2012 #19

Choice is exactly what the mormons think they are offering her metalbot Feb 2012 #45

I'm a Jew, I don't want to be baptized/Btw, people should check out the music jsmirman Feb 2012 #57

I think what Bill Maher did was perfect several weeks ago, unbaptize mittens /nt still_one Feb 2012 #25

weird , so do they believe by doing this Anne Frank will no longer be Jewish or what? JI7 Feb 2012 #27

They believe that a person is given a choice in the afterlife ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #64

She had choices while living HeiressofBickworth Feb 2012 #85

Mormons should posthumously baptize Jon Huntsman's political career. Bucky Feb 2012 #29

is there a way.to check their database Danmel Feb 2012 #33

No, it is done in secret jberryhill Feb 2012 #36

That's 100% false - all temple ordinance work is public, anyone can look it up FreeState Feb 2012 #67

I can't find a dead baptized person there jberryhill Feb 2012 #73

It's in their Wiki FreeState Feb 2012 #76

Which says you can't get them... jberryhill Feb 2012 #79

That's talking about "Restricted" records - which the wiki says are people that have living FreeState Feb 2012 #88

I don't know how you'd find her, but the woman mentioned in the OP, Helen Radky riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #46

They also baptized Adolf Hitler. YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #39

Is there a reason it's been done repeatedly? Skinner Feb 2012 #40

I was baptized twice ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #63

It's only done once, more than likely a member searched for the information FreeState Feb 2012 #68

Ann Romneys athiest father was also "Dead Dunked" by LDS. Snarkoleptic Feb 2012 #43

I'm sure she would be thrilled. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #44

new business idea Johonny Feb 2012 #51

Great idea! Right up there with pet care for raptured pet owners. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #96

I'm as worried about Mormon posthumous baptism as I'm worried about Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #52

Well that depends on just how bad you have been... truebrit71 Feb 2012 #60

This so offensive on so many levels... joeybee12 Feb 2012 #54

Where's the outrage over baptizing babies then? ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #62

That's all well and good jsmirman Feb 2012 #66

nothing says "irreversible" like a ritual circumcision waddirum Feb 2012 #72

Just when they seemed to be gaining some mainstream acceptance... TwilightGardener Feb 2012 #55

Mormonism - Making Scientology look reasonable one day at a time. smirkymonkey Feb 2012 #84

Know what this is like? Telemarketing. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #56

Fine, I just unbaptized her....are we square now? truebrit71 Feb 2012 #59

so? mike_c Feb 2012 #61

a strange religion is Mormonism paulk Feb 2012 #65

Convert a dead Mormon to gay here -> IDemo Feb 2012 #74

I'd always read that the reasoning behind the Baptismal of the Dead justiceischeap Feb 2012 #75

Anne's dead. Hard to desecrate her corpse more than it already was. aquart Feb 2012 #77

In poor taste? Sure. A big deal? Nope. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #80

As a Jew, I am disgusted by these critiques of my outrage jsmirman Feb 2012 #87

An explanation. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #89

They are precisely chosen analogies jsmirman Feb 2012 #90

I think you chose, well...poorly. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #92

I'm not going to take this any further other than jsmirman Feb 2012 #93

But they *can't* mess with her in a past, actual, after, or future life. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #97

Here is the bottom line. Bonobo Feb 2012 #95

I'm not telling you how you are supposed to feel. I simply voiced my opinion. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #98

Right. And my opinion is that it is also offensive to minimize it. Bonobo Feb 2012 #99

Hm...I think we still have poor analogies. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #100

You know, I'd appreciate it if you would stop insulting my analogies jsmirman Feb 2012 #101

How exactly do you insult (of all things) an analogy? Disagreement =/= Insult. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #102

Oh, I throw my hands up jsmirman Feb 2012 #103

For what it's worth, I feel much the same...in a vice-versa sort of way. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #104

I agree with you unreservedly. +1 million. nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #91

This is really funny auburngrad82 Feb 2012 #81

Well. they know in their great wisdom that she had the wrong religion and that she's suffering... JNathanK Feb 2012 #86

Theological necrophilia TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #94

I thought you had to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #105