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In reply to the discussion: I Have A Simple Question For The Class... DO YOU... In Total... Respect Our Government/System ??? [View all]Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)58. As a principle on Paper?
Yes. In principle, as it is intended to operate. Yes.
In practice? Not so much.
As an example. The First Amendment.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Congress shall make no law. The First Amendment is intended to be a guide, for good and moral men/women to use. Just this side of a commandment from God. But with the same limitations. Congress shall make no law. Notice how it doesn't say The Supreme Court shall rule that any law which.... But it says Congress shall pass no law.
How many times (Citizens United excepted) has the Supreme Court had to tell the Government that they were enforcing a law which abridged the First Amendment? How many times has the Supreme Court had to rule on a Religious Display? How many times has the Press found themselves targeted by Politicians?
On paper, the Amendment is a good thing. In practice, not so much. Take any amendment you want. The 4th Amendment. We're so much smarter now, so much more evolved. Yet we're trampling that like it has been woven into a door mat at the main entrance of a popular shopping mall. Fifth Amendment, The Supremes just ruled that you have to specifically say that you are invoking your right to remain silent or they'll use that right against you. I could go on and on.
The words, and meanings on paper, are a wonderful and amazing thing. Each branch given responsibility, each branch given authority, and each branch equal. If a Judge misbehaves then that Judge can be impeached. In practice, it's almost never done, no matter how outrageously the Judge has behaved. Congress was given immunity while in session, the idea being this way Virginia could not hold up delegates from South Carolina and affect legislation. Good in principle, but abused in practice.
The nation in principle, I love. The nation in practice, well I despair of ever loving it again. We forgot that just because we can do a thing, doesn't mean we should.
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I Have A Simple Question For The Class... DO YOU... In Total... Respect Our Government/System ??? [View all]
WillyT
Jul 2013
OP
This Government No Longer Serves Me - My Faith In the Institutions Of Government And Power Are Gone
cantbeserious
Jul 2013
#3
No one is satisfied, whether properly informed or not, people simply don't like the government.
Neoma
Jul 2013
#5
Your response here really deserves to be its own OP with its themes elaborated
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#46
Thank you, but I doubt I will do it. Katrina should have tipped everybody to
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#74
Yes, I do respect our Government. It's the Republicans that don't respect it or the citizens.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#12
Agreed... and I think the founding fathers would have been in favor of making adjustments to...
Blasphemer
Aug 2013
#56
I've had little faith in the govt. since I started developing real political awareness
MotherPetrie
Jul 2013
#28
But it took Obama to really take the dying remains of that faith and stomp it right into the ground
MindPilot
Aug 2013
#69
No ... it isn't working and everything we did to make it work, has failed. So far. WE have to do
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#32
The Founding Fathers never contemplated snakes like Cheney or Yoo. Their genius also
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#50
for me it's the blah blah lip service combined with the absolute lack of shame when they're
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#51
"For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there." 58,000+ men and women died for a lie.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#43
Great post. I wonder if LBJ really was the first president to lie us into war. McKinley may not
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#55
A bloodless coup d'etat installed the fascists on 12/12/2000 (Bush v. Gore) and we became a rogue
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#45
It was a two sentence post about Zimmerman, IMO intended only as flamebait. n/t
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2013
#62