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In reply to the discussion: 3 Shocking Revelations from NSA's Most Terrifying Program Yet [View all]randome
(34,845 posts)25. Foreign communications are not subject to our Constitution.
You still have no evidence that the NSA is collecting domestic communications except in the course of monitoring a foreign individual. There is no evidence of that unless you want to count metadata phone records, which courts have ruled for a long time are not our personal property.
The internal NSA documents show 4 levels of approval before an analyst can even look at domestic information. Carl Bernstein said that looks pretty robust and I agree.
And yes, I can imagine the NSA has quite a collection of data on foreign individuals so your supposition that they don't need software to look through it doesn't make sense to me.
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What shows that they are "gathering every communication they can get their fingers on both foreign"
randome
Aug 2013
#24
All information to date! Obstinate denial will not make the facts go away,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#41
I merely point out that logic and reason, coupled with an even cursory look at history,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#63
That is my point, why would we want to wait until there is evidence, get rid of the gun!
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#74
They used against Verizon customers, like me. I have spoken to Verizon who are trying to deny
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#143
I know, but radome implied there was no proof of these allegations. We have verification from
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#147
And where was the warrant for them to stalk me and my phone, internet and email habits?
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#170
Michelle Bachman is not a person I would be quoting around here, in fact anywhere. That
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#181
I asked you and I asked Verizon, 'where is this warrant'? You need to talk to them, they deny
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#182
Your premise is that we minions COULD have the evidence needed to prove the lie
peacebird
Aug 2013
#177
Because you would stand on top of the mountain of evidence and scan the horizon looking for proof.
RC
Aug 2013
#77
Yes and the corporate-military petrodollar-right does not think global warming is happening,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#42
No denials. Questions and postions. Engage if you wish. I can be convinced of anything.
randome
Aug 2013
#26
Software that is used to parse through enormous volumes of foreign communications data.
randome
Aug 2013
#61
Engineering drawings, photographs, doctoral thesis, none of that is evidence.
reusrename
Aug 2013
#158
lol, there are prohibitions of pot smoking, so no one has ever smoked pot?
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#50
There is a long history of CRUSHING dissent in the good ol' US of A,. look into it, I suggest;
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#73
A 'known fact', huh? Kindly point me to this fact. And I don't mean another vague fear or allegation
randome
Aug 2013
#94
This is how it gets attention. By definition, nothing you can say will be good enough for Randome
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#169
We need to see evidence that they are not illegally spying. That's a reasonable request since THEY
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#116
good one,. when they look at everyone as the potential enemy all is possible,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#155
It's easy to us prove wrong. Go on Google and do a seach for "B omb" "Te rr orist"
Katashi_itto
Aug 2013
#88
Probably not a good idea to do at work. Actually, DU is not a good idea at work.
randome
Aug 2013
#95
Sen Wyden says that Snowden is revealing what he, Wyden could not. Do you think Sen Wyden is lying?
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#117
Do you think that Sen Wyden is a conspiracy theorist? Do you think he is lying when he says that
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#123
Does anyone seriously believe that internet "privacy" ever existed in the first place?
Orrex
Aug 2013
#28
What is missing in this discussion is the idea that they collect everything in ADVANCE, not after
on point
Aug 2013
#30
What is also missing in this discussion is how the Republicans abuse this capability to spy on Dems
Coyotl
Aug 2013
#66
"The outrage is long past due". That is the point and demonstrates this whole argument
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#180
Are you afraid that these revelations will shake your trust in the government?
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#122
MULTI-millions of us ought to declare one day "E-mail Nothing But 'F*** YOU!' Day."
WinkyDink
Aug 2013
#78