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In reply to the discussion: Holy Mesopotamia Batman: First Grade Common Core Social Studies vocabulary [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)191. My SIL is 9 years old. This is what she does for FUN --
C'mon people! It's not like this is rocket science.
Oh. Wait. Actually, it is.
Lover Boy and I spend a lot of time watching his younger sister while their father is away on business. Last weekend she came over to the house with her laptop, as she usually does, but instead of working on school projects or poking around the internet she started playing a game called, Kerbal Space Program.
Kerbin is a fictitious blue-green world not unlike our own save for the facts it is only 600km in radius and it has 2 moons. Kerbin is inhabited by Kerbals, little green humanoids with large, curious eyes and an endearing stoicism in the face of near-incessant catastrophe. The object of the game is to get Kerbals off of Kerbin and into space.
To meet these objectives the player is provided with a library of parts from command modules to fuel tanks, engines, solar arrays, landing gear, etc. etc. etc. With these basic elements you can build rockets, satellites, space stations and even space planes.
It's not as easy as it looks, she explained, as her rocket climbed into the air. She went on to describe how she lost many rockets -- and no small number of Kerbals -- from designs that veered -off course out of control or simply exploded on the launch pad under their own weight. Simply achieving orbit is a feat in and of itself as you have to begin your gravity turn at the right altitiude, which is wholly dependent on your rate of ascent which in turn depends on the mass of your rocket and the power of your engines.
"Well of course. Everyone knows that," I said to my husband who gave me a bewildered shrug.
Her target today was Minmus, the second of Kerbin's two moons. This was an unmanned (unkerballed?) flight as she prefers to send probes ahead of the more deliberate missions. Having easily achieved orbit (?!?!?) she waited until the rocket circled around to periapsis, the lowest point of orbit (the converse being apoapsis) where she had set a maneuver node.
As she approached periapsis she aimed the nose of the rocket towards the point designated by her maneuver plot and when the prograde vector overlapped it she hit the main engine. Checking the map she watched as her projected course brought her into an encounter with the Mun's (the nearer moon of Kerbin) gravity.
Seconds ticked away as a green gauge next to the navigation ball bled away. This was the Delta V indicator, the amount of thrust to be applied to change the velocity and hence, the trajectory. Delta is apparently the mathematical symbol for "change" and V is for velocity. When the indicator hit 0.3 she shut down the engines.
Satisfied she switched from the map to the free camera mode which showed the rock leaving Kerbin orbit. It was simply beautiful to watch as the tiny, beautiful world grew smaller and a glorious universe unfolded. It may just be a game but my heart was seized by the silent splendor of it all.
She accelerated time as the trajectory required a 4 hour, 50 minute time until Mun encounter. Along the way, she explained she would be approaching the Mun from behind so as to gain acceleration and thus conserve fuel. If she were to approach from the front she would decelerate and that would jeopardize the mission.
She also switched to another mission, one that had landed successfully on the Mun. She showed how Jebediah Kermin, her personal favorite due to his happier nature, could walk around the in the Mun's much lower gravity.
Back to following the probe she waited for the Mun to capture the tiny machine in its sphere of influence. She quickly placed another maneuver node and fired the engines at the appropriate time for the prescribed duration. Again, the trajectory plot grew until it changed color indicating a projected encounter with Minmus. She switched back to camera mode as we watched the Mun recede off into the distance.
As we again waited for time to elapse she told me how she wanted to get a space station in orbit around each moon but, she lamented, docking was a skill she had yet to master even though she had watched numerous video tutorials. It seemed an odd confession considering the ease and confidence at which she commanded her current mission.
In time she approached Minmus. She rotated the probe to a retrograde position and fired her engine until the last of its fuel was depleted. She turned the probe prograde vector before releasing the spent rocket stage ensuring it drifted away from behind rather than being in the way ahead of her as she tried to decelerate -- a lesson she assured me she had learned the hard way. She returned the ship to its retrograde course and began burning her final engine to bring her orbit in around the Minmus.
It is a strange and uninviting world of teal blue ice oceans surrounded by menacingly huge white mountains of ice. Bit by bit she worked to lower her orbit. She wondered aloud whether she should attempt a soft landing.
"I think I'll try it!" she announced like one who had no government budget to be mindful of.
Continuing the retrograde burn she slowed the rocket until gravity took over. Then it was a matter of juggling engine burn while toggling the stabilizing system on and off. Her little fingers worked furiously to control thrust and position but -- I am sad to report -- there were too many unlearned variables. Altitude, the jutting terrain, limited fuel and unfamiliar gravity conspired to dash her ambitions and her rocket against the mountains of Minmus.
A cathartic "Darn it!" later and she was back in the Vehicle Assembly Bay with a handful of lessons learned, redesigning her satellite.
She then announced she wants to be an astronaut.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018412124
Oh. Wait. Actually, it is.
Lover Boy and I spend a lot of time watching his younger sister while their father is away on business. Last weekend she came over to the house with her laptop, as she usually does, but instead of working on school projects or poking around the internet she started playing a game called, Kerbal Space Program.
Kerbin is a fictitious blue-green world not unlike our own save for the facts it is only 600km in radius and it has 2 moons. Kerbin is inhabited by Kerbals, little green humanoids with large, curious eyes and an endearing stoicism in the face of near-incessant catastrophe. The object of the game is to get Kerbals off of Kerbin and into space.
To meet these objectives the player is provided with a library of parts from command modules to fuel tanks, engines, solar arrays, landing gear, etc. etc. etc. With these basic elements you can build rockets, satellites, space stations and even space planes.
It's not as easy as it looks, she explained, as her rocket climbed into the air. She went on to describe how she lost many rockets -- and no small number of Kerbals -- from designs that veered -off course out of control or simply exploded on the launch pad under their own weight. Simply achieving orbit is a feat in and of itself as you have to begin your gravity turn at the right altitiude, which is wholly dependent on your rate of ascent which in turn depends on the mass of your rocket and the power of your engines.
"Well of course. Everyone knows that," I said to my husband who gave me a bewildered shrug.
Her target today was Minmus, the second of Kerbin's two moons. This was an unmanned (unkerballed?) flight as she prefers to send probes ahead of the more deliberate missions. Having easily achieved orbit (?!?!?) she waited until the rocket circled around to periapsis, the lowest point of orbit (the converse being apoapsis) where she had set a maneuver node.
As she approached periapsis she aimed the nose of the rocket towards the point designated by her maneuver plot and when the prograde vector overlapped it she hit the main engine. Checking the map she watched as her projected course brought her into an encounter with the Mun's (the nearer moon of Kerbin) gravity.
Seconds ticked away as a green gauge next to the navigation ball bled away. This was the Delta V indicator, the amount of thrust to be applied to change the velocity and hence, the trajectory. Delta is apparently the mathematical symbol for "change" and V is for velocity. When the indicator hit 0.3 she shut down the engines.
Satisfied she switched from the map to the free camera mode which showed the rock leaving Kerbin orbit. It was simply beautiful to watch as the tiny, beautiful world grew smaller and a glorious universe unfolded. It may just be a game but my heart was seized by the silent splendor of it all.
She accelerated time as the trajectory required a 4 hour, 50 minute time until Mun encounter. Along the way, she explained she would be approaching the Mun from behind so as to gain acceleration and thus conserve fuel. If she were to approach from the front she would decelerate and that would jeopardize the mission.
She also switched to another mission, one that had landed successfully on the Mun. She showed how Jebediah Kermin, her personal favorite due to his happier nature, could walk around the in the Mun's much lower gravity.
Back to following the probe she waited for the Mun to capture the tiny machine in its sphere of influence. She quickly placed another maneuver node and fired the engines at the appropriate time for the prescribed duration. Again, the trajectory plot grew until it changed color indicating a projected encounter with Minmus. She switched back to camera mode as we watched the Mun recede off into the distance.
As we again waited for time to elapse she told me how she wanted to get a space station in orbit around each moon but, she lamented, docking was a skill she had yet to master even though she had watched numerous video tutorials. It seemed an odd confession considering the ease and confidence at which she commanded her current mission.
In time she approached Minmus. She rotated the probe to a retrograde position and fired her engine until the last of its fuel was depleted. She turned the probe prograde vector before releasing the spent rocket stage ensuring it drifted away from behind rather than being in the way ahead of her as she tried to decelerate -- a lesson she assured me she had learned the hard way. She returned the ship to its retrograde course and began burning her final engine to bring her orbit in around the Minmus.
It is a strange and uninviting world of teal blue ice oceans surrounded by menacingly huge white mountains of ice. Bit by bit she worked to lower her orbit. She wondered aloud whether she should attempt a soft landing.
"I think I'll try it!" she announced like one who had no government budget to be mindful of.
Continuing the retrograde burn she slowed the rocket until gravity took over. Then it was a matter of juggling engine burn while toggling the stabilizing system on and off. Her little fingers worked furiously to control thrust and position but -- I am sad to report -- there were too many unlearned variables. Altitude, the jutting terrain, limited fuel and unfamiliar gravity conspired to dash her ambitions and her rocket against the mountains of Minmus.
A cathartic "Darn it!" later and she was back in the Vehicle Assembly Bay with a handful of lessons learned, redesigning her satellite.
She then announced she wants to be an astronaut.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018412124
So, she's grasping the concepts of apoapsis, periapsis, thrust, vectoring and whatnot.
Meanwhile, I have a headache just re-reading it.
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Holy Mesopotamia Batman: First Grade Common Core Social Studies vocabulary [View all]
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
OP
i have no objection to them being taught either. however, i wouldn't teach mesopotamia as
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#10
first of all what's so important about teaching history in choronological order to
cali
Jul 2013
#14
why do you think you need to teach civilizations in chronological order? that would mean they
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#16
i'd bet the 'expected answer' is 'first laws in the world' or something simple like that. still
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#19
Gotta embed some authoritarianism into their little minds right from the git-go
MindPilot
Jul 2013
#28
"shit," "fucking soulless" and "mindless" just wasn't what came to my mind when I saw these words
mainer
Jul 2013
#29
My kids were taught some of this in 1st grade and they loved it, retained it and understood it.
Pisces
Jul 2013
#111
that's because there *is* a difference between elementary & high school kids, regardless of
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#127
you can call them whatever you like. public schools don't have a board with a Goldman sachs
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#198
I kind of question why they're being taught all this at such an early age in the first place.
reformist2
Jul 2013
#13
Exactly. This story has me interested in what the official NY first-grade curriculum looks like!
reformist2
Jul 2013
#17
I realize that kids need to be challenged to learn new things, but this seems extremely
Arkansas Granny
Jul 2013
#21
It is not too early. No vocabulary is truthfully too early for a student. n/t
vaberella
Jul 2013
#73
This does seem too advanced for first grade. I was in first grade in (ahem) 1957, and I
Nay
Jul 2013
#33
Oh, very true. In the end, as I said, it's about money -- part of that is getting rid of
Nay
Jul 2013
#47
my daughter just finished first grade and did modules on aegypt and ancient china
loli phabay
Jul 2013
#49
I can't comment as to the differences between the Canadian provincial educational systems.
Xithras
Jul 2013
#52
there is no canadian curriculum, so i don't know how you could make such a claim.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#90
See my link. I posted the Ontario curriculum statements as one example of a Canadian-
Nay
Jul 2013
#102
i was addressing the other poster's implied claim that 'canada' has a national curriculum.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#104
Oh, sorry, I see that. Yes, I think that other poster has been reading Arne Duncan's crap. nt
Nay
Jul 2013
#122
it definetly in the expectations, the touchy touchy feel good stuff stifles the kids
loli phabay
Jul 2013
#64
yeah like spelling really matters on the internet, you know its pretty much the sign of a loser
loli phabay
Jul 2013
#105
i only spellcheck them when they're ranting about how poorly educated others are.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#106
my education is sufficient for my needs and as i said spelling on the internet who cares
loli phabay
Jul 2013
#109
you're the one complaining about how poor education based on the results of standardized tests
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#114
I hate to break this to you but the internet doesn't transform the rules of spelling or
cali
Jul 2013
#152
lol yeah like there are professional consequences for misspelling a word on DU
loli phabay
Jul 2013
#158
sloppy works, i just let the fill in crap thing on my kindle mess stuff up
loli phabay
Jul 2013
#164
you're the one ranting about other people's poor education. i wonder how you would even
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#182
it depends on what global test you're looking at, for what year, for what subject. OECD doesn't
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#96
Apparently Early World Civilizations (TM) were limited to those practicing the Abrahamic religions??
kestrel91316
Jul 2013
#54
Hello fellow NYC Teacher. I'm High School and I teach ESL although I was ESL/Global.
vaberella
Jul 2013
#66
Well, if teachers are going to be evaluated, I think it's best if everyone has a common
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#193
This is pretty close to what my daughter had in first grade. I don't see why the
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#67
So we should dumb-down standards for those children? I want to read your theory of
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#92
Well, she's 10, now. "find out what they're interested in and turn them loose."
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#133
Did you homeschool? Because otherwise, your child went to a school where I have no
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#142
With the advantages your child had, they would not be able to handle Common Core?
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#150
If you're making the assumption the standards are too high, I'm going to disagree.
Vashta Nerada
Jul 2013
#100
My first grader learned these words in an overview of the 3 main religions. This is an introduction
Pisces
Jul 2013
#108
You are correct. Because there is no standardized exam on Global until 10th grade.
vaberella
Jul 2013
#129
There are standardized tests in 5th grade for social studies which include 'global' questions.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#130
Ah yes--I remember my regent's diploma and regent's scholarship. Aiming high is a good thing. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#135
some nyc schools don't even have art, but you think they're making sarcophagi & prayer rugs.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#132
That doesn't mean NYC teachers can't take the initiative to bring them into the classroom.
vaberella
Jul 2013
#153
gee vaberella, when you're following a scripted curriculum and take weeks off the regular
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#181
i would forget it, there is an ancient persian saying that fits trying to talk to certain posters
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#189
That is a major problem. Art, Music and PE are critical components of learning.
Pisces
Jul 2013
#171
Exactly--my kid saw the same concepts in1st and 3rd grades, and will revisit them again.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#137
mine will go private when they are teens, though my daughter wants to go to switzerland now
loli phabay
Jul 2013
#168