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In reply to the discussion: Senators CLAIM Their Votes On Key Issues Are "CLASSIFIED" [View all]Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)107. Where did I say
Republicans are not responsible for their actions? Please point that sentence out to me.
By your logic should we not convict criminals but just blame the police for not stopping them?
That's cowardice you don't want to fight the ones who are committing offenses but sit back and moan that others aren't stopping them.
Uh, no. I expect criminals to be criminals. I expect the law enforcement to arrest them and the judicial system to punish them. This in no way means I am not allowed to criticize either group for abusing its power, or colluding with criminals to make deals which advance their careers. (See Whitey Bulger)
As for the rabid dog analogy, that's patently ridiculous. We put down rabid dogs surely you aren't suggesting violence against fellow Americans.
You are really going out of your way to twist my analogy. I expect people to live up to their nature, that was my point, nothing else. I do not advocate violence against anyone.The rabid dog comparison is apt in that you cannot reason with a rabid dog. Anyone who tries is a fool.
In free societies we don't dehumanize fellow citizens and we don't pretend that they are excused from bad behavior and that its someone else's fault for not stopping them
Really? What "free society" do you live in? I can flip on Fox News at any moment of the day and see it done 24x7.
It IS the fault of the people we supported and voted for when they REFUSE to stop the illegal and destructive behavior of the very groups and people they were elected to stop. A policeman that my taxes hire is subject to my criticism when he fails to do the job he was hired to do. The DA who cuts deals rather than prosecutes criminals, or who selectively prosecutes some crimes while ignoring others is also a LEGITIMATE target for censure.
Maybe you agree with the whole teabag nonsense of racial supremacy, or maybe you agree with other aspects of their agenda. Don't know don't care. But when you seek to blame others for wingnut actions in a public forum decent folks will call you out. That's American free speech in action.
Oh, so now you are insinuating that I am a racist teabagger? How very mature. I have been around this site far longer than you and have a long track record establishing my liberal bona fides. I don't have to defend my liberal cred to a clueless newbie.
By the way when was the last time you voted dem?
Not that it is any of your freakin' business, but I have voted Dem in every election since Carter in 1980 when I was first eligible to vote. I did vote for a Republican superior court judge once, but that was back in the day when there were actually sane Republicans and her Dem opponent was being investigated judicial misconduct.
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As long as we do not have Check Points at major intersections or on streets crossing
RC
Jul 2013
#32
Police repression exists in varying degrees dependent upon and highly correlated
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#57
What I'd like to see is the Detroit Police Department arrest Orr on the charge
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#120
You are correct. Why have actual check points when one person sitting at a A/C console miles away
RC
Aug 2013
#128
When our elected representatives are not allowed to tell us how they voted on important
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#88
The pieces are all in place, I don't think they're efficiently connected yet, though
MNBrewer
Jul 2013
#13
Secret government, secret laws, secret courts, secret spying ... what a democracy.
Scuba
Jul 2013
#5
Even Reagan is to the LEFT of the Democratic Party leadership on some BIG issues.
bvar22
Aug 2013
#125
They may be doing a lot in secret because it is illegal -- CIA stuff, working around the laws
Coyotl
Aug 2013
#126
I think there's enough money floating around DiFi & her mobster husband
Jackpine Radical
Jul 2013
#46
She's worth about 70 million and still takes her salary and that is relevant
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#105
What would happen to a US Senator if he or she openly discussed classified information?
Gidney N Cloyd
Jul 2013
#24
I've read that they are told it's treason to divulge info from closed top secret hearings.
bobduca
Jul 2013
#25
If what you've done is so shameful you have to hide behind "it's classified"
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#33
Hmm. I guess we shouldn't worry about matters that are none of our business....
midnight
Jul 2013
#62
Scary and indefensible. Secret laws, secrets prisons, secrets votes, secret courts. Some democracy.
chimpymustgo
Jul 2013
#71
Sorry, you're not allowed to know how your public servants serve you. That's private.
tclambert
Aug 2013
#98