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In reply to the discussion: 3 Shocking Revelations from NSA's Most Terrifying Program Yet [View all]L0oniX
(31,493 posts)84. Trust our government ..LMFAO ..only it's not funny anymore. They lied us into a war. End of story?
...and the end of blind trust unless you are an idiot who likes to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Oh sure they won't abuse this system ...yea right. We won't know until another insider with a moral conscience leaks the info. Bet me that morals are not wanted in the NSA and the DHS only blind obedience for country ...right or wrong.
Blind obedience to authority is the enemy of the truth. - Albert Einstein
My country right or wrong” is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, “My mother drunk or sober.” – G. K. Chesterton
The biggest threat to America today is it’s own federal government…. Will the Army protect anybody from the FBI? The IRS? The CIA? The Republican Party? The Democratic Party?....The biggest dangers we face today don’t even need to sneak past our billion dollar defense system….they issue the contracts for them. - Frank Zappa
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What shows that they are "gathering every communication they can get their fingers on both foreign"
randome
Aug 2013
#24
All information to date! Obstinate denial will not make the facts go away,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#41
I merely point out that logic and reason, coupled with an even cursory look at history,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#63
That is my point, why would we want to wait until there is evidence, get rid of the gun!
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#74
They used against Verizon customers, like me. I have spoken to Verizon who are trying to deny
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#143
I know, but radome implied there was no proof of these allegations. We have verification from
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#147
And where was the warrant for them to stalk me and my phone, internet and email habits?
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#170
Michelle Bachman is not a person I would be quoting around here, in fact anywhere. That
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#181
I asked you and I asked Verizon, 'where is this warrant'? You need to talk to them, they deny
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#182
Your premise is that we minions COULD have the evidence needed to prove the lie
peacebird
Aug 2013
#177
Because you would stand on top of the mountain of evidence and scan the horizon looking for proof.
RC
Aug 2013
#77
Yes and the corporate-military petrodollar-right does not think global warming is happening,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#42
No denials. Questions and postions. Engage if you wish. I can be convinced of anything.
randome
Aug 2013
#26
Software that is used to parse through enormous volumes of foreign communications data.
randome
Aug 2013
#61
Engineering drawings, photographs, doctoral thesis, none of that is evidence.
reusrename
Aug 2013
#158
lol, there are prohibitions of pot smoking, so no one has ever smoked pot?
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#50
There is a long history of CRUSHING dissent in the good ol' US of A,. look into it, I suggest;
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#73
A 'known fact', huh? Kindly point me to this fact. And I don't mean another vague fear or allegation
randome
Aug 2013
#94
This is how it gets attention. By definition, nothing you can say will be good enough for Randome
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#169
We need to see evidence that they are not illegally spying. That's a reasonable request since THEY
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#116
good one,. when they look at everyone as the potential enemy all is possible,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#155
It's easy to us prove wrong. Go on Google and do a seach for "B omb" "Te rr orist"
Katashi_itto
Aug 2013
#88
Probably not a good idea to do at work. Actually, DU is not a good idea at work.
randome
Aug 2013
#95
Sen Wyden says that Snowden is revealing what he, Wyden could not. Do you think Sen Wyden is lying?
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#117
Do you think that Sen Wyden is a conspiracy theorist? Do you think he is lying when he says that
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#123
Does anyone seriously believe that internet "privacy" ever existed in the first place?
Orrex
Aug 2013
#28
What is missing in this discussion is the idea that they collect everything in ADVANCE, not after
on point
Aug 2013
#30
What is also missing in this discussion is how the Republicans abuse this capability to spy on Dems
Coyotl
Aug 2013
#66
"The outrage is long past due". That is the point and demonstrates this whole argument
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#180
Are you afraid that these revelations will shake your trust in the government?
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#122
MULTI-millions of us ought to declare one day "E-mail Nothing But 'F*** YOU!' Day."
WinkyDink
Aug 2013
#78