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48. Irony Alert..

Thu Aug 1, 2013, 06:13 PM

Aug 2013

eclecticbrotha @eclecticbrotha

Irony alert. When alleged NSA abuses aired, USA tries to assuage people's fears. When documented KGB/FSB abuses exposed, leakers killed.

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/08/01/rise-and-shine-568/#comments

Good ol Human Rights Abusers Russia.. "yay russia bad ol usa "

My money is on the USA.. "humiliation" aside. BFD. Pres Obama doesn't waste his time on such roadblocks. He and his Admin figure out how to go through them.

A law passed in June bans imposes hefty fines for providing information about the gay community to minors or holding gay pride rallies, a move that has prompted gays in the U.S. and elsewhere to call for boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi.

john miller @deaconmill

If Snowden had been Russian and done the same thing to them, he would be dead already, no matter where he fled to.

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Guardian's former Moscow correspondent on "Russia�s treatment of its own whistle-blowers" (updated) [View all] ProSense Aug 2013 OP

After reading that I realized we should shred the 4th Amendment. Wilms Aug 2013 #1

I read it and that never came to my mind. ProSense Aug 2013 #2

Russia's treatment of gays stinks... Wilms Aug 2013 #5

What about Russia whistleblowers? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #6

This is just sad. reformist2 Aug 2013 #23

Yes, it's horribly "sad" about the Human Rights Violations in Russia Cha Aug 2013 #52

They will be safe here so long as they don't whistle-blow against the U.S. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #39

We are. Russia has a long list of Human Rights abuses. Cha Aug 2013 #49

So do we. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #50

Stack them up against Russia's. I'll take Cha Aug 2013 #53

Never said they did not have huge issues. We have a very bloody history Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #54

Russia has many more.. Cha Aug 2013 #56

I could respond with an equal number of links Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #62

I'm grateful I'm living in a country where Obama is President as opposed to Putin's Russia Cha Aug 2013 #63

As I said, I could match you link for link Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #64

I know you keep saying that like you're broken recording... And, I know this.. Cha Aug 2013 #65

If Snowden was Russian and had exposed a massive Russian surveillance network Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #72

If we did or didn't.. I think putin would try to make sure Cha Aug 2013 #73

Snowden is not plotting against the U.S. whether Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #74

If snowden's giving secrets from his laptop to Russia then Cha Aug 2013 #75

I agree, Putin did make the big catch and it just goes to show you what a sad state of affairs it is Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #77

I doubt Russia is taking any "high road". Cha Aug 2013 #78

You can call it self serving if you will and I would agree with you but perception is everything Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #79

Fucking hypocrites. Cha Aug 2013 #80

Human rights activists stand for many issues they will applaud Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #81

Pro, Infowars loves Putin. It's a libertarian thing, you wouldn't get it. freshwest Aug 2013 #10

So let him go to Bolivia or Venezuela. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #3

Thanks ProSense. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #4

vladimir putin UglyGreed Aug 2013 #7

DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #8

The irony is thick. n/t AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #9

Yup. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #15

Yes it is. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #51

Well fuck, if Russia isn't nice to its own whistleblowers LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #11

Actually, thank you for sharing your thought process. ProSense Aug 2013 #12

All your hardwork has won me over LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #13

Don't blame me for your thinking. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #14

You're a lucky gal, Pro. You have such innnnteresting fans. Number23 Aug 2013 #61

Russia executes whistleblowers, the US jails them indefinitely, tortures them in custody, NuclearDem Aug 2013 #16

Who are the whistleblowers who the US jails "indefinitely" and "tortures" in custody? ProSense Aug 2013 #17

You clearly didn't follow the Manning trial. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #21

I did, and you said "them" ProSense Aug 2013 #25

Oh stop it. Just stop it. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #26

Yes, you did. You made a snarky remark as if to imply: So, the U.S. does this....n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #29

Oh for God's sake, just tell her/him nyah nyah nyah nyah, nyah, nyah - tag. You're it. matthews Aug 2013 #59

Prosense, where should Snowden seek asylum? The Corrector Aug 2013 #18

LOL! "What's your suggestion?" Here: ProSense Aug 2013 #19

Does the US Government consider him a hero? The Corrector Aug 2013 #24

You weren't happy with my "suggestion"? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #32

Confused, not happy or unhappy The Corrector Aug 2013 #40

He isn't subject to military justice. He is a civilian. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #57

Corrected The Corrector pintobean Aug 2013 #71

He'll come back when the horror that is Rand Paul is elected. Expect confetti and swooning... freshwest Aug 2013 #30

No one here cares about Ron Paul for cripes sake. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #55

Corrected by MIRT pintobean Aug 2013 #84

We all know this 1,000 times already. and we all know.. allin99 Aug 2013 #20

We also know ProSense Aug 2013 #22

which happened...*today*, not weeks now... allin99 Aug 2013 #27

The piece in the OP is from today, and the administration position is not new. ProSense Aug 2013 #28

the u.s. reaction could have been anything. they made a statement on todays asylum... allin99 Aug 2013 #31

That ProSense Aug 2013 #33

it's just weird that you post the exact same thing... allin99 Aug 2013 #34

What ProSense Aug 2013 #36

there's nowhere else for him to go. allin99 Aug 2013 #37

So, what does that have to do with the OP? ProSense Aug 2013 #38

If Snowden lives happily ever after in Russia then he worked for them DevonRex Aug 2013 #35

Beware: Harding wrote a book about it after reporting it muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #41

So there were no murders? ProSense Aug 2013 #42

I'm taking the mickey of you and your cohort's breathless denunciation of books muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #43

OK. So there were murders, but you're just "taking the mickey" on a false equivalency. ProSense Aug 2013 #44

'Guardian reporter writes a book'='Guardian reporter writes a book' is a 'false equivalency'? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #45

Yes, the book has nothing to do with the current report, and the situations aren't remotely similar. ProSense Aug 2013 #46

The book is about the title of your thread, and by the man you describe in your title muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #47

Irony Alert.. Cha Aug 2013 #48

Gays had better stay away from Russia in 2014 or they'll be arrested: freshwest Aug 2013 #58

yeah, that's a freakng red flag right there. Something's Cha Aug 2013 #60

They've gone the free market paradise road. Just what the Libertarians want here. He'll do fine. freshwest Aug 2013 #66

Oh yeah, Mr "Ron Paul is dreamy" will do just fine. Nostrovia Putin puppet. Cha Aug 2013 #67

Well, AJ and RP heart Putin, so what's not to like, LOL. freshwest Aug 2013 #68

Good post. Snowden choosing Russia is equivalent to a person choosing Satan as safe bluestate10 Aug 2013 #69

Poor Eddie sheshe2 Aug 2013 #70

"In the end".. you're nothing but a hacker/leaker who scuttled off to Cha Aug 2013 #83

how does the united states treat russian whistleblowers? SwampG8r Aug 2013 #76

Pussy Riot ~ Putin Lights Up The Fires Zorra Aug 2013 #82