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sheshe2

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Thu Aug 1, 2013, 09:00 PM
Aug 2013

In the first sign of friction within his new administration, President Obama overruled the pleas of senior U.S. intelligence officials and signed a new executive order that bars the CIA from using harsh interrogation methods beyond those permitted by the U.S. military.

The order was one of four sweeping directives Obama signed calling for the closure of the U.S. detention facility at Guantánamo Bay and revamping U.S. counterterrorism policies.

The executive orders, while expected, represented a clean break with Bush administration policies and won quick praise from human-rights groups. Still, many of the difficult details—such as what to do with Guantánamo detainees still deemed dangerous—will be left up to a special interagency panel that won't report its recommendations to Obama for six months. The panel is to be chaired by Obama's choice for attorney general, Eric Holder, who is still awaiting confirmation.

In perhaps his most far-reaching and potentially controversial move, Obama ordered that the CIA immediately cease using any interrogation techniques that are not already authorized in the U.S. Army Field Manual. He also ordered the CIA to close, "as expeditiously as possible," any secret detention facilities overseas and begin immediate compliance with Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which prohibits "humiliating and degrading" treatment of prisoners.

In a stinging, if not entirely surprising, rebuke to Bush administration legal policies, Obama's order states that U.S. government officials involved in interrogations may no longer rely on any Justice Department legal memos written between September 11, 2001, and Jan. 20, 2009. Such memos—many of them still secret and the subject of fierce controversy during the Bush years—were, with one stroke of Obama's pen, made invalid.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/01/21/the-end-of-torture.html



Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) made clear the Republican support for Gitmo in a statement, “What has not changed since the issuance of the president’s executive orders is that terrorists working to attack the United States are enemy combatants, and if captured should be placed in military custody where they can be interrogated. The decision of the president to import Sulaiman Abu Ghaith into the United States solely for civilian prosecution makes little sense, and reveals, yet again, a stubborn refusal to avoid holding additional terrorists at the secure facility at Guantanamo Bay despite the circumstances.”

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It’s beyond frustrating that Americans elected President Obama twice, in part due to his approach to our foreign policy and national security, and yet they are getting Bushian/Republican policies on Gitmo and military tribunals shoved down their throats because Republicans and some Democrats refuse to fund Obama’s executive order.

Contrary to what you may have read for the last four years, President Obama really did sign an executive order to close Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (aka, Gitmo) and bring terror suspects to the continental US for civilian trials instead of military tribunals, per his understanding of our Constitution.

On January 22, 2009, as one of his first official acts in office, Barack Obama signed an executive order to close Gitmo within one year. On that day Obama said, “This is me following through on not just a commitment I made during the campaign, but I think an understanding that dates back to our founding fathers, that we are willing to observe core standards of conduct, not just when it’s easy, but also when it’s hard.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/03/10/republicans-finally-closet-preventing-obama-closing-gitmo-civilian-trials.html


House Republican Defense Bill Blocks Guantanamo Closing
By RICHARD LARDNER and DONNA CASSATA 06/03/13 02:13 PM ET EDT AP


WASHINGTON -- Rebuffing President Barack Obama's latest plea, House Republicans on Monday proposed keeping open the military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by barring the administration from transferring its terror suspects to the United States or a foreign country such as Yemen.

The provisions dealing with the fate of the remaining 166 prisoners are part of a defense policy bill drafted by Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard P. "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif. The chairman released the bill Monday, two days before Republicans and Democrats on the committee will vote on it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/03/house-republican-guantanamo_n_3379328.html

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look for the vote suppressors to nit pick the list. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #1
Oh I know, geek tragedy~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #4
"vote suppressors"? Are they trying to keep people from Cha Aug 2013 #10
The "don't bother voting crowd" geek tragedy Aug 2013 #11
Ah, I haven't seen that.. but, then Cha Aug 2013 #13
#2 is not even true hfojvt Aug 2013 #63
This is the kind of ignorant pig crap I would expect from someone geek tragedy Aug 2013 #72
I consider it ignorant to call a tax cut a tax increase hfojvt Aug 2013 #84
Your rejection of compromise as treasonous is exactly geek tragedy Aug 2013 #85
no, it is surrender that is treason hfojvt Aug 2013 #87
Going back to the 2000 tax rates would have raised taxes geek tragedy Aug 2013 #88
there we go right back to the original argument for the Bush tax cuts hfojvt Aug 2013 #89
Question: where must all tax bills originate? geek tragedy Aug 2013 #91
question: who controlled the House on 12 December 2010? hfojvt Aug 2013 #93
Again, you act as if letting all the bush tax cuts expire in the middle of a recession geek tragedy Aug 2013 #94
do me one favor, please hfojvt Aug 2013 #95
You have provided zero economic analysis. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #96
does it ever occur to you hfojvt Aug 2013 #98
Bottom line is that Obama couldn't please you and the majority geek tragedy Aug 2013 #99
you still do not get it hfojvt Aug 2013 #103
Race to the Top=No Child Left Behind. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #2
Nope. Totally different. nt jazzimov Aug 2013 #80
Shit-for-Brains was born on third base. lpbk2713 Aug 2013 #3
The 'both parties are the same' believers want Obama to fail, just like Rush. freshwest Aug 2013 #5
And some cannot believe that democrats at times do vote nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #7
Nadin, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #14
Sorry if you do not like my posting these days nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #16
Thanks freshwest, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #45
Yes, the power of money in media is devastating our country. freshwest Aug 2013 #46
Does anyone really believe that they are the same? Rex Aug 2013 #6
Very few, I'd imagine. Wilms Aug 2013 #8
True. Rex Aug 2013 #9
The same? No. Similar on several issues and policies? Yes, undoubtably. Common Sense Party Aug 2013 #81
One link is to an OP. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #17
Scahill isn't a DU member, that I'm aware of. Wilms Aug 2013 #21
Which issues do you wish me to respond to? sheshe2 Aug 2013 #50
I'd say there are many more than a few on DU that have taken that stance davidpdx Aug 2013 #83
I've seen people say he's worse than Bush wryter2000 Aug 2013 #19
No one believes they are the SAME GlashFordan Aug 2013 #33
Riiiight...not polar opposites. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #75
This list had to be done because they're too Cha Aug 2013 #12
Addicting Info had this sheshe2 Aug 2013 #15
I am mortified that there are people in the world that this shit had to even be spelled out to. Number23 Aug 2013 #18
I feel your pain Number23. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #20
I'm mortified that Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #48
Arguing the hyperbole zipplewrath Aug 2013 #22
The hyperbole is a problem. Raine1967 Aug 2013 #26
One of many zipplewrath Aug 2013 #29
Good food for thought. Raine1967 Aug 2013 #47
I've been critical of Obama for his surveillance policies and his acquiescence to Wall Street fraud Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #35
You forgot one: LWolf Aug 2013 #23
Obama is certainly far better than Bush NewJeffCT Aug 2013 #24
You can cross #7 off the list derby378 Aug 2013 #25
... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #36
kick Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #27
Who says he is the same as Bush? Bonobo Aug 2013 #28
Every single one of those should be asterisk'd GlashFordan Aug 2013 #30
I can't believe we need a list. JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #31
I thank you Johnny Ringo. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #38
So what is new (worse) or hasn't changed? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #32
Thank you for reality. 840high Aug 2013 #41
Thank you for appreciating reality MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #42
For all the people who said this thread was unnecessary. riqster Aug 2013 #67
I only got through the first few points on that list jazzimov Aug 2013 #79
Another one of these post. Shouldn't this be in the BOG? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #34
Are you telling me that I am not sheshe2 Aug 2013 #37
By all means, post in the GD. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #39
Ah yes, pretty darn similar. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #40
... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #44
... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #43
... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #53
you are free to praise Obama all you want on GD, and we are equally free to criticize him on GD. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #74
Aaah another move to censor me to the BOG. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #76
I say you are free to praise him all you want on GD and you turn that into I want to censor you? liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #78
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #68
Of the 16 you posted, at least 6 are misleading or inaccurate. progressoid Aug 2013 #49
this blame the republicans for obama's failures bullshit is getting old bowens43 Aug 2013 #51
bashing the President is getting old! IMHO! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #52
Here's a dollar MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #54
Here's a .01 cent. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #55
I don't think they make that denomination... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #57
Nope, I don't wonder at all. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #59
That didn't make very much sense... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #60
Yes I do wish Peace for all, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #61
+1000 Amonester Aug 2013 #101
Thank you Amonester, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #102
Yeah, because you and your cohorts need to blame Pres Obama for EVERYTHING. Cha Aug 2013 #56
Thanks for permission. You may proceed as well... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #58
You as well... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #64
Yeah, she.. too bad.. Cha Aug 2013 #66
Sad for them, I really am. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #69
Damn Straight I'll share it! Cha Aug 2013 #71
Don't guzzle all your red koolaid at once. Cha Aug 2013 #65
No, what gets old are so-called Democrats who are afraid to blame Republicans for the havoc geek tragedy Aug 2013 #73
When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a ‘one-term president’? sheshe2 Aug 2013 #77
+1 Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #92
K and fucking R! JaneyVee Aug 2013 #62
even before he was elected O. stayed at the table working for the people. Sunlei Aug 2013 #70
Oh man MFrohike Aug 2013 #82
BIG K&R for the weekenders. great white snark Aug 2013 #86
Thanks. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #90
I don't see "established worldwide utopia" on that list! tabasco Aug 2013 #97
Boink. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #100
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