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Benton D Struckcheon

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16. Didn't really look at those slides, didja?
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 10:21 PM
Aug 2013

Across the top it lists other countries with whom we are running this intelligence: Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand. Might be one other that I'm missing.
Anyways, point is, the idea that foreign govts aren't doing the same thing is just hopelessly naive. You are less than the dust beneath anyone's chariot wheels anyway, they're looking for trade secrets, official intelligence, all that kind of thing.
As for who might be looking for you, well, that would be Facebook and all the rest, but you already knew that, I'm sure.
Oh, and by the way, here's that eehhvulll PRISM:

With the rise of social media, more and more individuals and organizations are posting publicly available content.Within that content lies pertinent information which is useful to organizations. Before PRISM, users had to manually comb through multiple social media sites to try and synthesize the available data for information relevant to their needs. PRISM offers a single place to pull together all available data, filter out the noise, and make sense of the avalanche of information out there. To aid users, PRISM features the ability to map posts, compare digital footprints, monitor profiles, and to identify and monitor organizations. Users can export all data, including meta-data, for use with knowledge visualization analytical tools. PRISM is built upon an extremely versatile platform which can be accessed from anywhere with an Internet connection. PRISM allows any organization to efficiently manage the collection and analysis of publicly available information on persons, organizations and events.


I remember reading in some book by a former spook, don't remember which now, he said the first thing in their routine was to do the "checkables", that is, all the stuff that's publicly available about your target. Said there was a ridiculous amount you could find out just from doing a thorough job with that. That, it appears, is what PRISM does for the spooks. And not just them. Note that it's available to any organization, public or private, that wants to aggregate publicly available info and create a database of it for whatever purpose they have in mind.
So, given that, and given what can be found out about you from what you post here and elsewhere, well, I can't for the life of me come up with a reason for why the ordinary person cares about what Snowden "revealed". If you were really going out on the Internet thinking what you posted was going to be private, well, I don't know what to say. Foreign govts are already hacking into everyone else's networks, but they're not looking for you. The folks who are interested in you are using PRISM and other very similar tools to put all your info into a massive database the better to sell to you their stuff, or maybe check who you are before they hire you, all that kind of thing. None of which should be news to anyone.

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One argument might be that if you decide our Constitution and laws apply to everyone... randome Aug 2013 #1
So respecting people's basic human right (by not doing anything) is imposing our values Kurska Aug 2013 #3
Plenty of Islamic countries that don't believe in the same 'basic rights' we do. randome Aug 2013 #11
Woah, now you're starting to talk like one of those crazy peaceniks Kurska Aug 2013 #23
Despite what some on DU want to believe, I am not a supporter of American dominance. randome Aug 2013 #29
He's not arguing that the U.S. Constitution protects foreigners. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #6
Yes, that and it runs completely contray to the principles upon which our nation was founded. Kurska Aug 2013 #7
Um, they ARE doing it to us. Have you heard about China hacking our systems? randome Aug 2013 #10
I'm pretty sure there is a big difference between hackers Kurska Aug 2013 #13
I don't know if any other country attempts what we are doing. randome Aug 2013 #15
There has to be a way to secure the internet against this kind of abuse. Kurska Aug 2013 #17
I don't see that massive spying on foreign individuals is worth much effort on its own. randome Aug 2013 #20
Chinese hacking has been traced back to their military. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #19
Obviously, for any decent person, it's not OK cpwm17 Aug 2013 #2
I absolutely agree. Kurska Aug 2013 #4
Serious question Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #5
Perhaps our morals are different than yours. n/t cpwm17 Aug 2013 #8
I'm very curious what you mean by this. Kurska Aug 2013 #9
Foreign govts will already be doing this. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #12
Because authoritarian China wants to destroy world privacy, we need to do it first and quicker! Kurska Aug 2013 #14
Didn't really look at those slides, didja? Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #16
New Zealand is working with our program, no? That is why they are on our slides Kurska Aug 2013 #18
I deal in facts. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #21
I"m not even talking about PRISM, I'm talking about XKeyscore. Kurska Aug 2013 #22
Everything you do is already catalogued. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #25
So you're saying that because our human rights have already been curtailed Kurska Aug 2013 #26
No, not saying that. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #28
Don't you mean "has never"? Coyotl Aug 2013 #24
Our government should not be allowed to prevent we the people from being able to take it back... L0oniX Aug 2013 #27
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