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susanna

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60. If I was incorrect in my assumption, I apologize.

Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:03 PM

Aug 2013

I just find it amazing how many people know exactly what's happening here and how it should be done. I do not think that we have the luxury of using a politically correct litmus test for potential residents. For the record, I'm not happy with some of what's happening here re: obvious gentrification, but I'm also logical. Until there is a tax base to speak of in this city, we don't have a chance at all.

If the younger trust fund types take their money and go once they have kids (I have seen this happen), then you will have made a point. The ones who stay, however? I will personally tell them "thanks for believing in Detroit." Because if they stay, they will have become my neighbors. You will just be a random voice I chatted with once on a message board.

Peace.

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Detroit: The new hipster mecca [View all] HiPointDem Jul 2013 OP

Gentrification. Let's push out all of the poor minorities and replace them with white 20 somethings. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #1

don't assume they are living off their parents CreekDog Jul 2013 #2

a lot of them are living off their trust funds, though. as you can verify by researching some of HiPointDem Jul 2013 #4

Gentrification is trust fund baby hipsters taking over a community... Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #5

Do you live in Detroit? n/t susanna Jul 2013 #3

Nope. Why? Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #6

Your concern rings quite shallow. n/t susanna Jul 2013 #8

My concern is with the tried and true method of displacing the poor and white washing... Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #9

The burbs will be better for them dude. Give it up. ErikJ Jul 2013 #11

Haven't you already suffered enough in these discussions? With your beacon of hope... Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #13

Lots of blacks in Renton area. Lots. And the Sound area around Tacoma is almost half black. ErikJ Jul 2013 #14

oh, statistics-i-pulled-out-my-rear man is back. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #16

he claims to live in portland. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #25

Wow! trumad Jul 2013 #38

detroit has a higher population density than portland oregon. it's not rotting for lack of people. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #41

It's rotting because there's no tax base. trumad Jul 2013 #43

If I was incorrect in my assumption, I apologize. susanna Aug 2013 #60

The issue is displacing the poor, not with them possibly leaving in the future. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #65

if he doesn't live there his concern rings shallow? how's that? (and how do you 'ring shallow' HiPointDem Jul 2013 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author susanna Aug 2013 #61

There was nothing there... WCGreen Jul 2013 #10

What do you mean nothing was there? Was there literally no people at all in these areas? Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #12

Wow are you ignorant. There are 1000's of acres of open fields in Detoit now dummy. ErikJ Jul 2013 #15

yeah, it's across the street from empty wayne state university. acres and acres of emptiness. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #19

Portland Oregon: 145 m2, 600K people. Detroit: 149 m2, 700K people. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #21

1.85 million. Close enough. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #29

you'd better read his 'point' again. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #34

there was nothing there in the neighborhood of the detroit arts institute? what? it's right across HiPointDem Jul 2013 #18

Isn't that a natural place for the "Hipster" to settle in.... WCGreen Jul 2013 #50

yes. and there was something there. many things, actually. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #52

I still don't get why you are angry, or rather against, that some outsiders decided WCGreen Aug 2013 #55

I am not against outsiders moving into detroit. i am not even against hipsters moving to detroit. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #56

All I can say is here in Cleveland, 980k in 1950 to about 350k now... WCGreen Aug 2013 #57

There are no fewer poor people. What you are describing as revitalization is just a shifting around HiPointDem Aug 2013 #58

That's already somewhat happening (young professionals downtown). susanna Aug 2013 #62

I would move back to Detroit ellie Jul 2013 #44

i imagine there are lots of people who would move to detroit if they could find jobs. but since HiPointDem Aug 2013 #53

Good luck with that. They better be self-sufficient because ErikJ Jul 2013 #7

right. they're going to turn off the electricity in the neighborhoods surrounding michigan's 3rd- HiPointDem Jul 2013 #20

I love this thread quaker bill Jul 2013 #22

I love straw men. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #23

its a kind of a weird thread in some ways, but entertaining non the less loli phabay Jul 2013 #24

I got hooked reading it ... when very young, I remember well my father RKP5637 Jul 2013 #26

A great many are somewhat there quaker bill Jul 2013 #31

The hipsters arrive in Austin everytime the econ. hits the fan... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #47

I have been looking at St. Pete quaker bill Jul 2013 #49

Land, houses are still cheap. Though I know little of it, Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #54

Detroit is too cold quaker bill Aug 2013 #59

This >>> "decades of deindustrialization are the main culprit." As with much of RKP5637 Jul 2013 #27

cities change, demographically, industry etc etc. once the slide starts people leave loli phabay Jul 2013 #30

Yeah, I see it as a good thing. ... it's a spark to maybe get the city moving again. The RKP5637 Jul 2013 #35

the city *is* moving, and it's not because of hipsters. hipsters do jack. they are a symptom, HiPointDem Jul 2013 #36

This is true. The well-connected players are beginning to circle the feed trough. susanna Aug 2013 #63

Where better to start than with Detroit? kentuck Jul 2013 #28

I seem to recall young "hipsters" flocking to depressed areas justiceischeap Jul 2013 #32

I've seen this pattern so many times. Some of the cool coastal towns I used to RKP5637 Jul 2013 #37

no. they didn't move to depressed 'areas,' they moved to low-rent neighborhoods in otherwise HiPointDem Jul 2013 #42

Well, if you put it that way, I see your point a little better. susanna Aug 2013 #64

lots of them are just ordinary people. but an 'arts scene' is always made by the wealthy. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #66

I was struck by this: LisaLynne Jul 2013 #33

Real estate is super cheap here... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #39

Apparently living in a set of ruins appeals to hipsters, somehow. Nunliebekinder Jul 2013 #40

As a Detroiter, I take umbrage. The city is more than a "set of ruins". marmar Jul 2013 #46

As Portland breathes a sigh of relief... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #45

K&R YoungDemCA Jul 2013 #48

The easiest policy to save Detroit is a law that.... Taitertots Jul 2013 #51