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NuclearDem

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39. Wow, fantastically missing the point again.

Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:51 PM

Aug 2013

Whistleblowers shouldn't be getting punished at all. We do punish them. Russia also punishes them, but much more brutally.

But still, my point remains, we shouldn't be doing it at all, not just giving ourselves a pat on the back for at least not killing them.

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The US is not as bad as China or Russia and Obama is not as bad as Bush! [View all] Bonobo Aug 2013 OP

I know! It is getting ridiculous. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #1

We're running out of countries we can 'beat' on human rights... reformist2 Aug 2013 #54

Actually, the USA is about as good as any other European country you care to name. Or Japan. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #2

Well, other than having a much higher poverty rate, a much higher incarceration rate Fumesucker Aug 2013 #6

I think she meant OTHER than those little issues. Bonobo Aug 2013 #8

How is the suicide rate in Japan, Bonobo? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #9

Not as bad as the US military, KittyRatus. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #21

We're still #1 in numbers of fatcats rolling around in piles of money!! reformist2 Aug 2013 #57

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The police shooting in a racist incident is unsusual in Sweden Fumesucker Aug 2013 #18

Homophobia exacts a chilling price as hate crimes climb KittyWampus Aug 2013 #24

A big PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #67

Riots in France KittyWampus Aug 2013 #13

Riots in Huntingdon Beach Fumesucker Aug 2013 #16

France heat wave death toll set at 14,802 KittyWampus Aug 2013 #15

Climate change is due to the French emitting too much CO2? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #20

Rightwing Extremism (Germany) KittyWampus Aug 2013 #29

How does any of this make what I said originally untrue? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #30

Well, that says it all. We in the US have eliminated all Right Wing Extremism! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #43

France: Violent anti-equal marriage protesters clash with riot police in Paris KittyWampus Aug 2013 #19

'Nazi Bride' case highlights rising influence of women in Germany's far-right movement KittyWampus Aug 2013 #26

And education, mass transit, poverty, homelessness, leisure time... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #68

Does China do a preemptive attack on Iraq and Russia lovuian Aug 2013 #3

^this^ +1 eom Purveyor Aug 2013 #28

Ridiculous, isn't it? LittleBlue Aug 2013 #4

+1 adirondacker Aug 2013 #31

Well, ProSense Aug 2013 #5

What a standard to compare ourselves to! NuclearDem Aug 2013 #32

"At least we don't kill whistleblowers." ProSense Aug 2013 #34

Yeah, and, just like before, you seem to be comfortable with holding the US to Russian standards NuclearDem Aug 2013 #35

Nonsense. Murder is not the same as a due process. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #36

Wow, fantastically missing the point again. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #39

What ProSense Aug 2013 #40

Yes, it is a damn punishment. Cruel and unusual punishment. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #41

It's murder. Murder isn't punishment. ProSense Aug 2013 #42

Pain and suffering inflicted as retribution is punishment. In this case, it's also murder. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #45

Warped! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #47

What, no ROFL smiley? NuclearDem Aug 2013 #49

Deflection doesn't change the fact: Warped. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #50

Oh, well, I'll settle for the tired old accusation of deflection and you repeating yourself... NuclearDem Aug 2013 #52

And guess what: The comparison is still warped. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #56

Just because you say so doesn't mean it is. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #60

Torture doesn't equal due process. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #44

No, it doesn't ProSense Aug 2013 #46

And you received an answer, which you seem to have conveniently forgotten. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #48

No ProSense Aug 2013 #53

Nice link! I especially like how it shows you don't understand that long term solitary is torture. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #58

Nonsense, similar to claiming that murder is "punishment." n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #62

Seriously? You don't think long term solitary confinement is torture? NuclearDem Aug 2013 #63

+1! ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #64

The poster does not care one way or another Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #71

How sweet, you forgot about Bradley Manning ... sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #55

Actually, ProSense Aug 2013 #59

Bradley Manning was tortured. There is no doubt about that at all. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #70

brown is being held w/o bail questionseverything Aug 2013 #61

By which metric? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #7

Maybe if we terminated 2000 or so a yr we could ... Historic NY Aug 2013 #10

The prison-industrial complex makes more money enslaving prisoners than shooting them... n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #12

No so much in NY any more they shut down most of the industries... Historic NY Aug 2013 #25

2,000 would barely be a rounding error Fumesucker Aug 2013 #23

Or maybe we could emulate the world's more civilized nations, like Russia, and put a moratorium sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #51

I agree 100% JaneyVee Aug 2013 #14

just as long as you think they are bad nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #17

That bar is so low... TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #22

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Bush never had much potential, Obama on the other hand has been a HUGE disappointment populistdriven Aug 2013 #33

r#13 UTUSN Aug 2013 #37

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because.....freedom! duh! KG Aug 2013 #65

High standards, indeed! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #66

List of countries by incarceration rate. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #69