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ProSense

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40. What

Fri Aug 2, 2013, 12:01 AM

Aug 2013

"Whistleblowers shouldn't be getting punished at all. We do punish them. Russia also punishes them, but much more brutally. "

...utter drivel. Murder isn't punishment, it's murder.

Blake, Binney, Tamm, none of them are in jail.

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The US is not as bad as China or Russia and Obama is not as bad as Bush! [View all] Bonobo Aug 2013 OP

I know! It is getting ridiculous. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #1

We're running out of countries we can 'beat' on human rights... reformist2 Aug 2013 #54

Actually, the USA is about as good as any other European country you care to name. Or Japan. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #2

Well, other than having a much higher poverty rate, a much higher incarceration rate Fumesucker Aug 2013 #6

I think she meant OTHER than those little issues. Bonobo Aug 2013 #8

How is the suicide rate in Japan, Bonobo? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #9

Not as bad as the US military, KittyRatus. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #21

We're still #1 in numbers of fatcats rolling around in piles of money!! reformist2 Aug 2013 #57

Rioters in Sweden protest alleged brutality, racism after police shoot elderly man KittyWampus Aug 2013 #11

The police shooting in a racist incident is unsusual in Sweden Fumesucker Aug 2013 #18

Homophobia exacts a chilling price as hate crimes climb KittyWampus Aug 2013 #24

A big PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #67

Riots in France KittyWampus Aug 2013 #13

Riots in Huntingdon Beach Fumesucker Aug 2013 #16

France heat wave death toll set at 14,802 KittyWampus Aug 2013 #15

Climate change is due to the French emitting too much CO2? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #20

Rightwing Extremism (Germany) KittyWampus Aug 2013 #29

How does any of this make what I said originally untrue? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #30

Well, that says it all. We in the US have eliminated all Right Wing Extremism! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #43

France: Violent anti-equal marriage protesters clash with riot police in Paris KittyWampus Aug 2013 #19

'Nazi Bride' case highlights rising influence of women in Germany's far-right movement KittyWampus Aug 2013 #26

And education, mass transit, poverty, homelessness, leisure time... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #68

Does China do a preemptive attack on Iraq and Russia lovuian Aug 2013 #3

^this^ +1 eom Purveyor Aug 2013 #28

Ridiculous, isn't it? LittleBlue Aug 2013 #4

+1 adirondacker Aug 2013 #31

Well, ProSense Aug 2013 #5

What a standard to compare ourselves to! NuclearDem Aug 2013 #32

"At least we don't kill whistleblowers." ProSense Aug 2013 #34

Yeah, and, just like before, you seem to be comfortable with holding the US to Russian standards NuclearDem Aug 2013 #35

Nonsense. Murder is not the same as a due process. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #36

Wow, fantastically missing the point again. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #39

What ProSense Aug 2013 #40

Yes, it is a damn punishment. Cruel and unusual punishment. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #41

It's murder. Murder isn't punishment. ProSense Aug 2013 #42

Pain and suffering inflicted as retribution is punishment. In this case, it's also murder. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #45

Warped! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #47

What, no ROFL smiley? NuclearDem Aug 2013 #49

Deflection doesn't change the fact: Warped. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #50

Oh, well, I'll settle for the tired old accusation of deflection and you repeating yourself... NuclearDem Aug 2013 #52

And guess what: The comparison is still warped. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #56

Just because you say so doesn't mean it is. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #60

Torture doesn't equal due process. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #44

No, it doesn't ProSense Aug 2013 #46

And you received an answer, which you seem to have conveniently forgotten. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #48

No ProSense Aug 2013 #53

Nice link! I especially like how it shows you don't understand that long term solitary is torture. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #58

Nonsense, similar to claiming that murder is "punishment." n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #62

Seriously? You don't think long term solitary confinement is torture? NuclearDem Aug 2013 #63

+1! ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #64

The poster does not care one way or another Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #71

How sweet, you forgot about Bradley Manning ... sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #55

Actually, ProSense Aug 2013 #59

Bradley Manning was tortured. There is no doubt about that at all. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #70

brown is being held w/o bail questionseverything Aug 2013 #61

By which metric? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #7

Maybe if we terminated 2000 or so a yr we could ... Historic NY Aug 2013 #10

The prison-industrial complex makes more money enslaving prisoners than shooting them... n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #12

No so much in NY any more they shut down most of the industries... Historic NY Aug 2013 #25

2,000 would barely be a rounding error Fumesucker Aug 2013 #23

Or maybe we could emulate the world's more civilized nations, like Russia, and put a moratorium sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #51

I agree 100% JaneyVee Aug 2013 #14

just as long as you think they are bad nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #17

That bar is so low... TeeYiYi Aug 2013 #22

one more 90-percent Aug 2013 #27

Bush never had much potential, Obama on the other hand has been a HUGE disappointment populistdriven Aug 2013 #33

r#13 UTUSN Aug 2013 #37

We Rock! Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #38

because.....freedom! duh! KG Aug 2013 #65

High standards, indeed! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #66

List of countries by incarceration rate. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #69