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In reply to the discussion: Larry Summers: “We should not oppose offshoring" [View all]BumRushDaShow
(172,001 posts)70. Yikes! Here is one from Reich
http://prospect.org/article/high-tech-jobs-are-going-abroad-thats-okay
For some reason, this subject got me hunting around and apparently he and Laura Tyson had an academic debate back in the early '90s and he has some papers that were published in the Harvard Business Review from 1990 entitled "Who is US?" and one from 1991 - Who is THEM?" (haven't found any full transcripts of these yet)... both attempting to describe the morphing of the multinational corporation and national identity...
Alot of it (IMHO) seems to be a bit rambling but it apparently took him time to get to what you see today as "Robert Reich the anti-outsourcer". At least early on, he seemed to embrace shipping out the "grunt work" (my words) and having the U.S. be the "innovators" (with the assumption that the U.S. IT industry wasn't going anywhere, which proved to be wrong) - and basically, this is what Apple did to the point where none of their stuff was made in the U.S. and they embarrassingly have stamped on their devicies "Designed by Apple in California, Assembled in China".
High-Tech Jobs Are Going Abroad! But That's Okay
Robert Reich
Washington Post, November 2, 2003
<snip>
So why don't I believe the outsourcing of high-tech work is something to lose
sleep over?
First, the number of high-tech jobs outsourced abroad still accounts for a tiny
proportion of America's 10-million-strong IT workforce. When the U.S. economy
fully bounces back from recession (as it almost surely will within the next 18
months), a large portion of high-tech jobs that were lost after 2000 will come
back in some form.
<snip>
And just as with laid-off manufacturing workers, we need to ensure that high-
tech workers are adaptive and flexible. They should be able to move quickly and
get the retraining they need. Pensions and health insurance should be more
portable across jobs. High-tech workers who want to polish their skills or gain
new ones should have access to tax credits that make it easy for them to go
back to college for a time.
But it makes no sense for us to try to protect or preserve high-tech jobs in
America or block efforts by American companies to outsource. Our economic
future is wedded to technological change, and most of the jobs of the future
are still ours to invent.
Robert Reich
Washington Post, November 2, 2003
<snip>
So why don't I believe the outsourcing of high-tech work is something to lose
sleep over?
First, the number of high-tech jobs outsourced abroad still accounts for a tiny
proportion of America's 10-million-strong IT workforce. When the U.S. economy
fully bounces back from recession (as it almost surely will within the next 18
months), a large portion of high-tech jobs that were lost after 2000 will come
back in some form.
<snip>
And just as with laid-off manufacturing workers, we need to ensure that high-
tech workers are adaptive and flexible. They should be able to move quickly and
get the retraining they need. Pensions and health insurance should be more
portable across jobs. High-tech workers who want to polish their skills or gain
new ones should have access to tax credits that make it easy for them to go
back to college for a time.
But it makes no sense for us to try to protect or preserve high-tech jobs in
America or block efforts by American companies to outsource. Our economic
future is wedded to technological change, and most of the jobs of the future
are still ours to invent.
For some reason, this subject got me hunting around and apparently he and Laura Tyson had an academic debate back in the early '90s and he has some papers that were published in the Harvard Business Review from 1990 entitled "Who is US?" and one from 1991 - Who is THEM?" (haven't found any full transcripts of these yet)... both attempting to describe the morphing of the multinational corporation and national identity...
Alot of it (IMHO) seems to be a bit rambling but it apparently took him time to get to what you see today as "Robert Reich the anti-outsourcer". At least early on, he seemed to embrace shipping out the "grunt work" (my words) and having the U.S. be the "innovators" (with the assumption that the U.S. IT industry wasn't going anywhere, which proved to be wrong) - and basically, this is what Apple did to the point where none of their stuff was made in the U.S. and they embarrassingly have stamped on their devicies "Designed by Apple in California, Assembled in China".
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It's all over except for the dinner parties, oh and the "he meant to do that!"
Safetykitten
Aug 2013
#6
At what point to we stop blaming "the advisers" and start on the guy who hires them? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2013
#4
Larry Summers Is The Establishment. This is their policy, and their style of speaking for money
leveymg
Aug 2013
#7
The Elite Talk in Code. Take Poppy he'pin' get Neil off the hook for Silverado...
Octafish
Aug 2013
#25
They write like they talk. All hale fellows well met except the money moments, when they come right
leveymg
Aug 2013
#28
You realize that Krugman & Reich both supported offshoring> the problem as they point out
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#11
No, I have not heard elsewhere that Krugman and Reich supported offshoring, and the link you ...
Scuba
Aug 2013
#13
Regardless of who supports offshoring no one addresses the question of what well paying jobs
snagglepuss
Aug 2013
#15
I agree. And the sooner this worker-hating misogynist is off our shores, the better. n/t
jtuck004
Aug 2013
#21
“Luddites who took axes to machinery early in England’s industrial revolution.”
AngryOldDem
Aug 2013
#26
uh-oh, who's that in the corner? why, it's E.P. Thompson's "Making of the English Working Class"
MisterP
Aug 2013
#57
If Obama only knew, surely he would do something. Why aren't his aides telling him?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#32
Please help those of us that are sarcasm impaired. Use the sarcasm sign and help me
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#79
Noted. But, of course, the sarcasm sign may take out some of the sting. Wann dem Führer wuste!
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#80
Yes I understand that it's my problem. But I carry a major chip on my shoulder since Obama
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#82
What action has President Obama taken against offshoring, in the 5 years of his presidency?
Nye Bevan
Aug 2013
#34
Has everyone read the leaked Citigroup "Plutonomy" memos? The third has a bit on globalisation being
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#47
Did you find the part where he advocates ending tax breaks for companies that offshore?
Scuba
Aug 2013
#64
I am so sick of elites telling the people what they say is confidential.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#55
Workers in this country should be able to form unions without fear of persecution & death
TexasTowelie
Aug 2013
#84
That's the Obama administration... dedicated to creating jobs... OVERSEAS.
MotherPetrie
Aug 2013
#76