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In reply to the discussion: ACLU: Edward Snowden is a Whistleblower [View all]Number23
(24,544 posts)57. And here is a bit about two of those lawsuits
...But the Idaho native knows how she feels about the prospect of anyone tracking calls from her cellphone: Shes outraged. Its none of their business what Im doing who I call, when I call, how long I talk, Smith, 32, said in a telephone interview. She added, I think its awesome that I have the right to sue the president. Im just a small-town girl.
...Its kind of the American way to stand up to authority when you feel something is wrong. I dont live in Russia or China, where Id probably disappear if I did this, Peter Smith said. Why would anyone care about Annas phone records? Shes a mom, has two kids, lives in Idaho. She engages in normal mom activities.
...I follow the news very little, Smith said. I work full time and have two young kids. . . . To be honest, I dont fully understand the law aspect of it and maybe not even the political aspect. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/northern-idaho-mom-sues-president-over-government-surveillance-program/2013/07/25/4994d1d4-f092-11e2-bed3-b9b6fe264871_story_1.html
...Its kind of the American way to stand up to authority when you feel something is wrong. I dont live in Russia or China, where Id probably disappear if I did this, Peter Smith said. Why would anyone care about Annas phone records? Shes a mom, has two kids, lives in Idaho. She engages in normal mom activities.
...I follow the news very little, Smith said. I work full time and have two young kids. . . . To be honest, I dont fully understand the law aspect of it and maybe not even the political aspect. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/northern-idaho-mom-sues-president-over-government-surveillance-program/2013/07/25/4994d1d4-f092-11e2-bed3-b9b6fe264871_story_1.html
and
"...A $3 billion class-action complaint by Mary Ann and Charles Strange of Philadelphia was believed to be the first civil case against the Obama administration since last week's blockbuster disclosure in published reports about the super-secret National Security Agency surveillance efforts.
...The Stranges have sued Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, NSA director Keith Alexander, Verizon, government agencies and the judge who signed the secret order on phone monitoring. ... The lawsuit offered no specifics of any targeted surveillance. The Stranges based their allegations on "information and belief." http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/11/politics/nsa-court-challenges
...The Stranges have sued Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, NSA director Keith Alexander, Verizon, government agencies and the judge who signed the secret order on phone monitoring. ... The lawsuit offered no specifics of any targeted surveillance. The Stranges based their allegations on "information and belief." http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/11/politics/nsa-court-challenges
I agree with the Idaho mom that it is awesome that you can sue the president if you think that your government is doing something wrong. I also agree that other countries would not be nearly as accommodating. But the whole "because people are suing, this means this case has merit" is stupid. Some of the lawsuits may have merit but these two links very clearly show that not all of them do.
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The fact that Whistle Blowers break laws, which generally happens, as in Manning's case, after
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#28
Yes Sabrina..... First thing I was taught in political science 101... Who knew I would be on a blog
midnight
Aug 2013
#58
So is your claim that information released by Snowden is all supposition with no facts?
shawn703
Aug 2013
#102
Russia is just a stop along the way. The aggressiveness of the US has made it
morningfog
Aug 2013
#92
Wrong. He has the same innate human rights that he has always had and we all have.
totodeinhere
Aug 2013
#25
And isn't it sad that American Whistle Blowers feel safer in Russia than here?
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#74
Moscow Eddie and the Whistleblowers will be in the same article as Hanoi Jane and the Protesters!
Zorra
Aug 2013
#116
"the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act...is no more than a trap."
bananas
Aug 2013
#62
Only because the ACLU is a commie front group working for Putin while simultaneously
Dragonfli
Aug 2013
#6
"... The statutory language of the whistleblower protections requires the disclosure
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#51
Excerpt I posted was from CRS report on WPA linked by OP and suggests
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#81
It may not fall under WPA, as Snowden didn't follow procedures listed there,
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#82
Apparently the ACLU doesn't understand that if Bush were president Snowden would be a whistleblower
dflprincess
Aug 2013
#59
More precisely, IIRC, it protects Federal employees from such retaliatory action
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#91
Do you think protestors who don't seek permits beforehand should be considered protestors?
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#76
Well, it IS hard to keep up with exactly what "It's not about Snowden" means
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#94
The ability to determine right and wrong is a human quality and isn't found in a text book
AppleBottom
Aug 2013
#123