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43. Family in Europe, friends in Canada wait periods are less than mine in USA is with private ins.

Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:36 PM

Aug 2013

"How long are you prepared to wait for an appointment - which is the problem with medicine in Europe and Canada. "

Yes, they have to wait for non-urgent things rather than going for the instant gratification people seem to demand here in the USA. But for regular appointments? They get in at least as fast as I do here in the USA with insurance. Having to wait a week for an urgent health problem like a bladder/kidney infection (happened recently, though I was told I could go to the ER and they'd pass the cost on to others) is wrong.

What "44 million new patients" do you mean are going to be added to the health care system? Do you mean those who don't have insurance, instead use emergency rooms without paying, those costs passed on to others?

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