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madokie

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42. That would be all fine and dandy IF

Sat Aug 3, 2013, 06:51 AM

Aug 2013

they were all honest. Trouble is as a whole they are not. How is is possible to be a senator and become a millionaire while serving the public in this position?
the only way I can see is to take money under the table for favorable treatment.
It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to be a congress critter. All one needs is a good understanding of the constitution and the rule of law. Anything more opens the door to unlawful behavior that one can use to fatten their own wallet.
If congress critters did the job they were elected to do seniority wouldn't matter much. IMHO

The original framers of our constitution expected that most people who would ascend to government service would at least be honest. Thats the failure in all this. They also expected a free press that would hold those elected officials honest to the oath they take.

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I don't understand, given how things are today, how someone could argue AGAINST term limits. [View all] cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 OP

I'm against term limits. Tx4obama Aug 2013 #1

If all Reps and Senators were "new", then the lobbyists would control things even more. SharonAnn Aug 2013 #19

Yes. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #34

That would be all fine and dandy IF madokie Aug 2013 #42

Term limits are a stupid idea. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #2

STAFFERS run the government today. Do you think your elected representative READS or WRITES cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #3

yeah, I'd say we're already at a point where most politicians are incompetent, but what about the liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #8

It's a big herd... those who want congresscritter seats. Why do you think they want them? n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #13

+1. Term limits don't work. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #4

A thousand fucking years of "experience", and here we are... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #6

The problem isn't term limits. It's money in politics. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #9

You might be right... and our congresscritters have ALREADY BENEFITTED... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #14

Why yes, yes I know he does. cali Aug 2013 #41

Senators serve SIX YEAR terms.. if they haven't learned their jobs by the end of 1 term, they aren't Ghost in the Machine Aug 2013 #43

Campaign finance reform and repealing Citizens United would help more. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #5

All "politicians" are corrupt. That's WHY they seek their seats. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #10

bullshit. and simplistic bullshit at that. cali Aug 2013 #40

Dunno, eight more years of Clinton or eight years of dubbya? reusrename Aug 2013 #7

How about a hundred years of NEITHER? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #15

snort! reusrename Aug 2013 #18

because the people voted for them, nobody is being forced to vote for them JI7 Aug 2013 #11

A double standard is better than no standard at all Fumesucker Aug 2013 #12

The group of congresscritters we have now have over A THOUSAND YEARS experience between them. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #17

If we were really serious about government then high positions would be filled by a draft Fumesucker Aug 2013 #25

Let the voters decide if someone has been in office long enough (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #16

Do you think it's possible someone might vote for a candidate because their parents did? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #21

Yep. There are any number of stupid reasons why someone might vote for a candidate. Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #22

Hmm.. Obama is tall and good looking Fumesucker Aug 2013 #26

Unless your parents... onyourleft Aug 2013 #32

I am completely opposed to term limits and 100% in favor of kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #20

What you want conflicts with the First Amendment. Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #24

F--- the corporations. Require that campaigns be entirely funded by public monies, and kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #47

An example of "Corporate Free Speech" is an editorial in the New York Times. Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #48

In U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton KinMd Aug 2013 #23

535 congresscritters X 'two years' each = over 1000 years Tx4obama Aug 2013 #27

+1 Johonny Aug 2013 #28

I'm vehemently against Term Limits RudynJack Aug 2013 #29

exactly. Limiting term limits does nothing to fix the lobbying problem. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #31

I have mixed feelings on term limits. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #30

term limits guarantee that the moneyed side will always win markiv Aug 2013 #33

I myself am against term limits until some sleazy Riftaxe Aug 2013 #35

Term limits is a right wing solution. Term limits hands government over to lobbyists... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #36

I agree with term limits but ... intaglio Aug 2013 #37

We already do have term limits, it's called elections. B Calm Aug 2013 #38

I am firmly against term limits. term limits are built in cali Aug 2013 #39

I agree with you 100%... Unfortunately, we are in the minority and you won't find much support... Ghost in the Machine Aug 2013 #44

They Don't Legislate, They Fundraise... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #45

new candidates need more assistance from the party alc Aug 2013 #46