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liberalhistorian

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49. This pot hysteria has got to stop.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 10:44 AM
Aug 2013

When I was growing up my middle-class professional parents had a lot of middle-class professional friends who smoked pot, including while their children were sleeping, and everything was fine and the children turned out just fine. But there was such hysteria surrounding any pot use or possession that it's a good thing that no one ever mentioned it to anyone in authority (because that's the only way they would ever have found out). Alcohol does far more damage than pot, parents who drink too much do far more damage to their kids physically and emotionally, yet we don't swoop in and take away the children of parents who drink unless they almost kill the children.

When I was living in Cleveland, there was a horrendous case that was similar to this one. An interracial couple (he was black, she was white, and I mention their races because it's believed that racism had a lot to do with what happened and I agree) had a three-year-old son and a newborn baby girl. When she was two months old, they made a mistake that I'm sure they'll now regret for the rest of their lives. They took their daughter to the ER of a certain local but nationally known hospital because they were concerned that she seemed to be in pain. It was discovered that she had many bone fractures and "cracks" and she was immediately taken into the custody of CPS and the parents arrested. Their son was also taken into CPS custody, they couldn't even see him. They kept insisting they hadn't done anything, could never hurt their children. Their son showed no signs whatsoever of any abuse at all.

Their pediatrician swore under oath of an affidavit that they'd been devoted and loving parents to both their children and the doc thought that the baby could have the bone disease that causes bones to be so brittle and fragile that they can fracture and break just in normal, daily life, including picking them up and changing diapers. The doc had seen that disease many times and believed that that was the problem and had seen no other signs of abuse or neglect. The police and CPS and ER docs didn't give a shit what the doc said, they had their script and they were going to follow it. The son was placed in foster care and was dead not one month later because the fucking idiots at CPS had placed him with a woman who was violating the terms of her agreement with CPS by allowing a teenager who had no training, and who had had run-ins with the law, to care for the foster children. She also had too many day-care children, more than legally allowed, and had been cited for that by CPS also. The son was killed by the teenager who wasn't supposed to be there in the first place, let alone caring for the children.

It turned out that the baby did, indeed, have the bone disease that was suspected (I can't remember its name right now) and there were no other signs of abuse or neglect. But CPS dug in and it took another year for them to get their own baby back after CPS killed their son. I believe they finally received a substantial settlement from CPS but, as they said, it was bittersweet and hollow comfort as nothing would ever bring back their son. Because they were interracial and poor, to CPS and the police and the ER docs, that meant automatically that they were bad parents and there was nothing more to be said. And that kind of shit happens way more frequently than you'd like to think.

Having been in the legal field and knowing the system, that kind of shit happens way more than you'd like to think. CPS often does more harm than good, and often goes after the wrong people and takes the wrong children, leaving alone those who really need the help and who are truly suffering abuse and neglect. And often they leave middle and upper class families completely alone, even if there's abuse and neglect.

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How awful. AndyA Aug 2013 #1
oh, that is heartbreaking. I hope they sue. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #2
I am not clear how she was taken away in the first place. Did someone report them? Did the cops find Pisces Aug 2013 #3
The back story is ceonupe Aug 2013 #14
Agreed loyalsister Aug 2013 #22
Sure it could happen... Contrary1 Aug 2013 #30
Yes but in this case ceonupe Aug 2013 #38
'Our drug laws'? This story is about Texas, and their laws. Those laws are not mine. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #42
I agree. I am betting there is a LOT more to this story than Chemisse Aug 2013 #56
Yes... tragic and also preventable Blasphemer Aug 2013 #57
CPS doesn't give a shit about kids in foster care WolverineDG Aug 2013 #63
"Didn't we ALL smoke a joint after the kids were tucked in bed now and then? " Shit, do you rhett o rick Aug 2013 #80
Haha! Well I remember many the evening when my husband and I Chemisse Aug 2013 #84
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #86
I think you are safe as long as you dont mention the kind of pot that cooks with pressure and the rhett o rick Aug 2013 #88
I truly hope there is a personal injury attorney who can go after the state and it's relegated Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #4
Way too sad malaise Aug 2013 #5
I hope they sue the fucking house heck out of Texas warrior1 Aug 2013 #6
I am crying rurallib Aug 2013 #7
Legalize it Hydra Aug 2013 #8
Archaic laws Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #9
They would have had to kill me to let someone else take my daughter Faygo Kid Aug 2013 #10
Texas. n/t MrModerate Aug 2013 #11
death by drug war nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #12
Goes to show you 90-percent Aug 2013 #13
+1 progressoid Aug 2013 #33
Texas crimial justice stystem is not 'ours' unless we are Texans, I'm not and I Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #43
agree +1 AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #61
No words. AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #15
So horrible Phlem Aug 2013 #16
No, pot was not the issue... malokvale77 Aug 2013 #62
"they rely on private child placing agencies to perform background checks on all foster homes" arcane1 Aug 2013 #17
Corruption is far too likely when you throw profits into the mix RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #34
yeah, that's the clincher. And it wouldn't surprise me if there were kick backs for taking kids from KittyWampus Aug 2013 #48
No surprise... malokvale77 Aug 2013 #68
Never mind. Quantess Aug 2013 #18
And I was just about to answer The Straight Story Aug 2013 #20
Yeah, sorry. Quantess Aug 2013 #25
Tis fine :) (nt) The Straight Story Aug 2013 #26
The real story is about the foster care. mick063 Aug 2013 #19
we have tort reform. kids aren't worth much in the eyes of the law. elehhhhna Aug 2013 #67
This happens more than you might think NewThinkingChance40 Aug 2013 #21
foster farming elehhhhna Aug 2013 #69
I knew a woman who answered the door but left a stone on the coffee table... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #23
What does that mean? She left 'a stone'? What's a stone? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #44
Ever see one of these? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #60
lol not in 30 years elehhhhna Aug 2013 #70
The foster 'parents' should be arrested and the CPS case-worker should be fired. blackspade Aug 2013 #24
But at least, at her autopsy, she will not test positive for cannabis via second hand smoke kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #27
A tiny bit more info here... nessa Aug 2013 #28
I think it's a both/and situation. intheflow Aug 2013 #31
It's also possible they are protecting the grieving family... nessa Aug 2013 #40
That's a very good point. intheflow Aug 2013 #87
thanks, it sounds like the little girl's aunt & grandparents had a role in the original placement. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #50
NOOOOOOO!!!!! tblue Aug 2013 #29
Rockdale Police: Foster mother admits slamming 2-year old on head magical thyme Aug 2013 #32
So the child was abused by a God damn lunatic! Hours of punishment for wanting to eat?? Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #41
But at least she was safe from pot-smoking parents WolverineDG Aug 2013 #64
That just disgusts me... Blasphemer Aug 2013 #58
per the police, she showed no concern for the little girl. only that she was caught magical thyme Aug 2013 #65
What a nightmare. And blatant bigotry against marijuana consumers. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #35
If its not pot it's coke or heroin or meth. dkf Aug 2013 #76
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #36
Gawd damnit! WTF? SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #37
How horrible! Pretty little girl B Calm Aug 2013 #39
Foster agency had history of violations magical thyme Aug 2013 #45
what a horrific, sad and ugly story. the foster punishes the child for getting something to eat niyad Aug 2013 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author bobopa Aug 2013 #47
This pot hysteria has got to stop. liberalhistorian Aug 2013 #49
Osteogenesis imperfecta. Damn it. That's just a nightmare. n/t Butterbean Aug 2013 #59
That's it, that's the disease! liberalhistorian Aug 2013 #73
The *only* reason I know about that disease is because Butterbean Aug 2013 #79
My cousins grew up with cruel drunks instead of parents. mick063 Aug 2013 #51
I hope they bankrupt that state with a lawsuit LittleBlue Aug 2013 #52
Foster parents are paid money. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #53
I heard an interview with a reporter who covered the removal of children from their homes Chakab Aug 2013 #54
how is that war on drugs thing working out for everyone? Garion_55 Aug 2013 #55
My niece lived next door to professional foster parents, Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #66
I used to volunteer with an agency in Portland that worked with street kids Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2013 #71
That is a terrible indictment of the foster care system Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #74
I think foster parenting has changed a lot in recent years. Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #75
There are still foster parents like that today. Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #77
Disgusting and unbearably sad. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #72
The Most Dangerous Element fredamae Aug 2013 #78
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #81
They smoked pot while their daughter slept. How did they get caught? Egalitariat Aug 2013 #82
Little kids go to bed early Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2013 #83
Perhaps. As unlikely as Santa Claus. But perhaps. I'm not buying the intro to the story, and Egalitariat Aug 2013 #85
I have never lost a child. mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #89
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