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former9thward

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28. Well Ellsberg does not agree.

Reply to Raine1967 (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:16 AM

Aug 2013

Daniel Ellsberg, the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers, said on Monday that he supports Edward Snowden's decision to flee the United States.

Ellsberg has sometimes been held up as an example of everything Snowden is not. Former Obama administration speechwriter Jon Favreau, for instance, called Ellsberg a "true whistleblower," unlike Snowden.

Yet Ellsberg has steadfastly sided with Snowden, saying that his detractors are wrong to contrast the two of them and calling Snowden's leaks the most important in American history.

Many people compare Edward Snowden to me unfavorably for leaving the country and seeking asylum, rather than facing trial as I did," he wrote. "I don't agree. The country I stayed in was a different America, a long time ago."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/daniel-ellsberg-edward-snowden-asylum_n_3562505.html

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History shows Snowden may face tough exile in Russia [View all] ProSense Aug 2013 OP

You wish. The author seems to be confusing Russia with USSR. Nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #1

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #2

You think the author of the piece is a "cretin"? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #4

If she is unable to distinguish as mentioned dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #5

The piece isn't an op-ed. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #6

If that's ProSense Aug 2013 #3

Well when your op is just full of fail, a complete change of subject is always in order. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #7

Yes, and it goes on to talk about the current state and Snowden's "usefulness " ProSense Aug 2013 #10

He has a year to decide to stay or to find somewhere else who Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #38

You're the one who is trying to hijack her thread with your personal insults. Cha Aug 2013 #13

There is a bit of overlap, don't you think? Igel Aug 2013 #11

Yes there is, but the overlap is primarily cultural and irrelevant to the thesis. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #12

Nice try at spin. former9thward Aug 2013 #8

Yes, I expect him to be okay wherever he goes. Incitatus Aug 2013 #9

you sure they would be happy to give him work? Whisp Aug 2013 #34

He has already been offered tech jobs. The "he can't be trusted " Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #39

I don't think he really 'outsmarted' anyone but himself. randome Aug 2013 #15

Let's see... former9thward Aug 2013 #18

Ellsberg ran? Raine1967 Aug 2013 #20

He went into hiding when the NYT started publishing. former9thward Aug 2013 #21

Oh, ok. Raine1967 Aug 2013 #23

Well Ellsberg does not agree. former9thward Aug 2013 #28

Yeah, St Snowden is Putin's Puppet now.. that's not outsmarting anyone Cha Aug 2013 #26

Russia is a beautiful country Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #14

Interesting piece. This will come as no surprise to any person with a half-functioning brain Number23 Aug 2013 #16

Exactly. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #19

The last part of your post is erroneous. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #40

I have no idea what you're trying to say is "erroneous" in my post. Number23 Aug 2013 #41

It got "67 Recs" on the article's site.. lol Cha Aug 2013 #17

Is it worse than life in prison in America? kentuck Aug 2013 #22

Jail is not stressful David Krout Aug 2013 #24

The way his lawyer talks ProSense Aug 2013 #25

There might be a slight chance at being in solitary or... kentuck Aug 2013 #32

Or not, lol nt GlashFordan Aug 2013 #27

R#9 & K for, but it won't be like that for HIM because he's SPECIAL!1 UTUSN Aug 2013 #29

Wha'd I SAY, what DID I say?!1 UTUSN Aug 2013 #30

Interesting... kentuck Aug 2013 #33

Boink. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #31

You know who is suffering right now more than Snowden in Russian exile? Aerows Aug 2013 #35

DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #36

As bad as what the Land of the Free is offering him? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #37