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236. Seriously? This is the second time someone has attempted to promote the concept that Obama

Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:03 AM

Aug 2013

is powerless and of absolutely no consequence in matters of state. I get that congress is republican but seriously, can anyone tell me exactly what is DOING (not talking) to change or end these critical issues? Anything?

And why did he sign (twice) the NDAA section 1021 which provides for the indefinite detention of US citizens with neither trial nor representation (ending the 4th and 6th Amendments, IIRC) and then send lawyers to reinstate it after Chris Hedges et al. sued him over it and a judge struck it down as unConstitutional? (Obama's lawyers managed to get it reinstated, BTW.)

Why hasn't he sent lawyers to attack these Fascist legislations and corporate legislators? What is he DOING to challenge and fight and stop them?

No one seems able to answer this question because apparently he isn't doing anything more than a word here and there (and his words are meaningless after calling the racist Ray Kelly a leader and well-qualified to head DHS and wall street deregulator Summers to head the Fed, among other things).

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What remains unchanged or has worsened under Obama? [View all] Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 OP

Wow, what a racist rant. I'll bet you date a pole dancer. Scuba Aug 2013 #1

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #22

You're welcome. Scuba Aug 2013 #23

Dearest Scuba, Hissyspit Aug 2013 #29

I feel exactly the same way. Scuba Aug 2013 #33

And that's all you have to say? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #165

Never use an overabundance of generously proportioned words .... Scuba Aug 2013 #169

Oh! rhett o rick Aug 2013 #171

... NuclearDem Aug 2013 #30

Thanks for posting this. raindaddy Aug 2013 #53

It's called being the President of the United States brush Aug 2013 #142

So I'm curious about something... matthews Aug 2013 #166

Not exactly brush Aug 2013 #188

Well I agree with one thing you said... matthews Aug 2013 #207

What's your take on Warren? brush Aug 2013 #210

I just Googled "Los Angeles iWatch and Special Order 11" and got a CREEPY reply: NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #2

Damn! I've added a section to the end of the OP regarding the surveillance state and police... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #24

K&R...That's quite a Litany...and Interesting to Bookmark...for sure! n/t KoKo Aug 2013 #3

Superb post, and merely a partial list. woo me with science Aug 2013 #4

The fact that he's appointed a couple of good old boys from Monsanto for food and ag policy... drokhole Aug 2013 #59

And all of those Wall Street "financial advisors" !! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #86

And nearly as many Republicans among his top appointees as Bush. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #156

K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #5

K&R pscot Aug 2013 #6

Yup, its all Obama's fault. Historic NY Aug 2013 #7

Agreed. A lot of it isn't. Wilms Aug 2013 #14

No, It is a bipartisan fucking that will continue Dragonfli Aug 2013 #15

False equivalancy; it's 90% republicans fault uponit7771 Aug 2013 #117

. Dragonfli Aug 2013 #121

...and the professional left uponit7771 Aug 2013 #122

I forgot, the left is the enemy, the right is for seeking agreement with Dragonfli Aug 2013 #124

Okay, only half of it is his fault. caseymoz Aug 2013 #61

No, it's your fault, too. grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #180

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #8

If you and prosense had a baby together The Straight Story Aug 2013 #9

Now that's funny. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #11

My current list isn't as long. ProSense Aug 2013 #36

As I was saying.... The Straight Story Aug 2013 #38

It doesn't seem to matter what positions people had before, they are very flexible and can sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #55

The ISI and Pakistani military sure supported them.... MADem Aug 2013 #79

You say that like you think its a GOOD THING ... bvar22 Aug 2013 #131

Why do you so predictably feel a need to characterize what was an entirely FACTUAL post? MADem Aug 2013 #135

Anyone of reasonable intelligence would arrive at the same conclusion.. bvar22 Aug 2013 #139

You confuse facts--all of them supported by the article--with endorsement. MADem Aug 2013 #141

Glad to know you line up with the ISI. bvar22 Aug 2013 #145

I want to memorialize your bad behavior, in case embarrassment moves you to delete such a MADem Aug 2013 #149

Sorry, Mam, bvar22 Aug 2013 #158

Give it up. We were not bigfooting all over the place. Our charge in Pakistan was MADem Aug 2013 #159

Still doesn't make the Drone Strikes OK. bvar22 Aug 2013 #164

You are free to start a thread on the topic. MADem Aug 2013 #168

LOL. I'll take that as a compliment from YOU. bvar22 Aug 2013 #175

You complain about the phrase "bigfooting around" and finally admit you don't know what it means. MADem Aug 2013 #177

Wait a minute. bvar22 Aug 2013 #183

In your most recent comments. MADem Aug 2013 #189

When she writes her "Factual Proof Thread" to explain that the ISI is in possession of the Dragonfli Aug 2013 #206

Oh, I'm IN. bvar22 Aug 2013 #209

Correct disidoro01 Aug 2013 #146

I don't "take a simple view" of anything. Please have a look at the context of the MADem Aug 2013 #148

You disidoro01 Aug 2013 #152

If you can't bother to read what I write, without overlaying your dire imaginings over MADem Aug 2013 #160

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #163

I personally find it difficult.. in the extreme SomethingFishy Aug 2013 #242

those New York Times people sure are not very good at math hfojvt Aug 2013 #65

Again? ProSense Aug 2013 #68

you should really update that link hfojvt Aug 2013 #71

Sigh. Yet another keyboard..I have got to have my coffee elsewhere. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #37

some times you have to use a straw.... madrchsod Aug 2013 #203

Nah, I drink it black and hot. I just need to put it down before I laugh (G) n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #205

LOL disidoro01 Aug 2013 #144

good one...but madrchsod Aug 2013 #202

His ruinous education policies will be his lasting "legacy" duffyduff Aug 2013 #10

You forgot public education. LWolf Aug 2013 #12

You are very correct. Many places where schools are being closed are now funding multi-million Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #32

Yawn. Most of your list is congressional duty. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #13

Must he sign and/or agree with all the corporate shit that hits his desk? Dragonfli Aug 2013 #20

Exactly. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #28

You mean like ALEC laws which pass at the state level? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #101

No. Those he had nothing to do with and assume it only made the list because feds ignore the federal Dragonfli Aug 2013 #105

Very much so, very good points which I've missed. For me, it is about Obama doing nothing to Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #226

Good point about the veto power. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #157

+ a gazillion chervilant Aug 2013 #196

Do you ever post anything except "It's not Obama's fault."??? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #167

Here is an example of what Obama did for a piece of legislation, versus "why doesn't he do similar Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #230

President Obama is a President, not a dictator. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #16

It is disingenuous to suggest that Obama can do nothing to hinder Congress. Maedhros Aug 2013 #137

Of all the rationalizations for "It's not Obama's fault", that is one of best. Not a dictator. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #170

Sadly, he's not even a President, he's a corporate spokesperson for the ultra rich. grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #182

My neighbors dog still keeps barking. THANKS, Obama! KittyWampus Aug 2013 #17

I'm hearing that line in Stephanie Miller's voice Just Saying Aug 2013 #31

Shit, I forgot to put an apostrophe in "neighbor's". THANKS, Obama. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #47

Trying to keep a grown man down. AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #72

Comparing massive surveillance to a dog barking? caseymoz Aug 2013 #64

They dont want to discuss anything other than, "It's not Obama's fault." THat's all they got. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #172

Keep the pressure cooker on them. You are the bomb!! PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #18

Are you daring the FBI to visit? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #178

The defenders GlashFordan Aug 2013 #19

They think he has no power to choose appointments or policies under his executive purvue Dragonfli Aug 2013 #25

^^This!^^ BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #111

My general mood and outlook on life Demeter Aug 2013 #21

yes but gay marrige and the ACA zeemike Aug 2013 #26

The funny thing is that his supporters can't claim the gay marriage thing Hydra Aug 2013 #34

. ProSense Aug 2013 #39

this is false uponit7771 Aug 2013 #118

Really? Cuz that's a strong and well developed defense there Hydra Aug 2013 #125

. uponit7771 Aug 2013 #126

You seriously sent me a Prosense thread? Hydra Aug 2013 #129

"The President was late to the party for equal rights" uponit7771 Aug 2013 #132

Propaganda? Plez no. I have her on ignore for a reason. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #174

When you say, "this is false", does the "this" refer to your own post? If so, I agree. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #173

Civil rights and an expanded safety net for millions is not fodder for snark. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #40

Let's hear it for fighting for an expanded safety net. Billy Pilgrim Aug 2013 #43

Why? zeemike Aug 2013 #45

For when the inevitable backlash comes, I'd like to offer you this thought... rwsanders Aug 2013 #27

Well said, thanks for posting n/t Fumesucker Aug 2013 #41

Good post. theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #221

I sure I suck at Chess, but I know this... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #35

Romney would have fixed all that stuff his first day in office. Billy Pilgrim Aug 2013 #42

I think the, "It could have been worse" argument is the bottom of the barrel. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #176

My point is that it transcends partisanship, Billy Pilgrim Aug 2013 #240

I guess I missed that all together. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #241

Why would you want to walk with fire snooper2 Aug 2013 #44

Why would you want to be a 'snooper2'? Wouldn't that make HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #49

well, snooper 1 and snooper were both taken, it was a hard time snooper2 Aug 2013 #50

Mostly because DU doesn't offer commas in usernames Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #87

UNREC brooklynite Aug 2013 #46

The post says it happened under the Obama administration, not that the administration was to blame. Billy Pilgrim Aug 2013 #51

"During" might cover that... brooklynite Aug 2013 #60

It was david axlerod Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #67

Although my post is general, it IS to call Obama into direct question. Please to read: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #84

Okay, only half are Obama's doing. caseymoz Aug 2013 #110

Obama is also responsible for the work of ALEC in red states ... apparently. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #127

No, he is reponsible for not challenging and ending it. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #225

How would he do that exactly?? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #234

Republicans nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #48

So now we're blaming Obama for Citizens United? Hell, let's also blame him for the Iraq War... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #52

And, of course, Dodd-Frank never happened bhikkhu Aug 2013 #54

"Citizens United" falls under the "remains unchanged" (WHY!?) aspect of the thread title. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #88

Why? Because the Supreme Court ruled. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #89

"Citizens United" was given lip service at the DNC and AFAIK, absolutely nothing sice. Obama could Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #212

You lie. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #219

Don't attack me. I said AFAIK and I did not watch the SOTU address because I can't stand to look or Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #224

I'll attack you as I please when you make accusations without backing 'em up... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #238

He's also responsible for ALEC getting states with Republican Govonors ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #99

"The Tea Party makes about as much sense as this OP." They're also incapable of seeing that Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #218

What a useless post Politicub Aug 2013 #56

All those facts, easily cross-checkable from "legit" sources, sway you not one whit? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #82

The critical thinking skills of DUers has definitely worsened! randome Aug 2013 #57

10% of Democrats voted for Bush. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #74

The ones that applaud a Republican cabinet - blue dog third way Reagan Democrats that Dragonfli Aug 2013 #75

Unlike the OP and her ilk, I would vote for Obama over Bush. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #76

The OP and her ilk vote AGAINST Republicans and Republican policies. read my post I know you didn't Dragonfli Aug 2013 #77

Um, they prefer Bush to Obama. Nuff said. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #78

No, only in your mind, only an idiot would think someone who attacks Bush's policies and Dragonfli Aug 2013 #81

The OP continually pushes the line that Obama is worse than Bush. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #83

. Dragonfli Aug 2013 #85

Sorry I don't share the delusion that Obama geek tragedy Aug 2013 #100

No one here does Dragonfli Aug 2013 #109

I so agree. Some here have absolutely nothing to add but, "It's not Obama's fault." nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #179

Obama isn't mentioned that often except by those who want to 'take him down a peg'. randome Aug 2013 #195

You and your friends never, ever discuss issues unless you are defending your lord and savior. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #204

I like this general attitude. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #58

I'm very afraid that we have passed the tipping point. Vanje Aug 2013 #62

Indeed Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #69

Hamburgers are smaller too... SidDithers Aug 2013 #63

+100 JoePhilly Aug 2013 #102

LOL. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #113

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2013 #119

I can no longer buy my favorite hot dog bun. That darn Obama. nt bluestate10 Aug 2013 #185

Damn! Black man can't buy a break. Trashing thread! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #66

It Is Not About Race! It's about actions similar to Bush, extensions of the Bush agenda. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #80

Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah! Obama is just like Bush. Got it. Trashed thread. No need to reply. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #106

And obviously, no need to consider the facts at hand. Good luck with that position. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #211

Isn't this post racist burnodo Aug 2013 #96

Notice when a black man got into the Presidency treestar Aug 2013 #192

It's called The Black Tax. Amazing the same standards were never applied to Bill Clinton. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #200

It's threads like these Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #70

Yes, we know you prefer Bush to Obama. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #73

We know you prefer Ronald Wilson Reagan to Franklin Delano Roosevelt TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #90

No, I just recognize we're better off under Obama than under Bush. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #92

That bar is so low as to be dangerously meaningless. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #150

There is hope of rescue, but that will require the Teahadists not owning geek tragedy Aug 2013 #151

Christalmighty Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #91

No, what is stupid is talking about how much worse off the US is geek tragedy Aug 2013 #93

You're too stupid to stay on my screen. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #94

Yeah, you Obama< Bush types are clearly geek tragedy Aug 2013 #95

This one's strange "logic" has convinced him/her that anyone that opposes the continuation Dragonfli Aug 2013 #107

A kinder, gentler Republicanism. bvar22 Aug 2013 #134

Clearly, the OP is attacking Obama from the Left. Broward Aug 2013 #97

President Obama didn't stop ALEC from getting right wing laws passed JoePhilly Aug 2013 #98

Emoprog puritopianism has gotten worse BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #103

Nailed it! treestar Aug 2013 #193

Is that a 'thing' or did you just make that up? randome Aug 2013 #198

Education. Public education. What a fucking train wreck. n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #104

Race to the Top=No Child Left Behind. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #153

k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #108

beside heaven05 Aug 2013 #112

All of it is true. Thank you for striving to find out for yourself instead of simply calling my OP Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #233

thanks heaven05 Aug 2013 #235

A very well-informed voter! I honor you! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #237

Well if you're gonna be picky tblue Aug 2013 #114

Does this mean.......... BobbyBoring Aug 2013 #115

Here you go: Zoeisright Aug 2013 #116

no need for facts, just more Obama hate uponit7771 Aug 2013 #120

Facts mean nothing to the OP and all of the amen chorus. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #186

This post was so bad that just the first two rows of the Amen chorus showed up to rec it Number23 Aug 2013 #194

Obama is responsible for ProSense Aug 2013 #199

Some of it was cut-and-pasted from a list over a year old, which should alarm anyone Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #220

Dude, that remark still doesn't absolve you Skidmore Aug 2013 #223

Look, I understand the separation of powers. My point is Obama does nothing about these serious Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #232

So absolutely nothing I've posted is factual? Only HATE? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #222

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Aug 2013 #123

Citizens United is at the top of your list Martin Eden Aug 2013 #128

Thank you. And sorry to pick nits but due to the depth of its importance I wished to mention Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #217

Oh, Fire, why do you force me to waste my beautiful mind thinking about things Zorra Aug 2013 #130

:) Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #216

Kick! nt darkangel218 Aug 2013 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #136

Uh,no. great white snark Aug 2013 #138

. dionysus Aug 2013 #161

Shit I thought it was a Comrade Eddie thread. stonecutter357 Aug 2013 #140

Yep. Same old stuff, different day. nt bluestate10 Aug 2013 #187

I see. Questioning the president and the state of the nation is "Obama hate". That means we should Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #214

Thank you. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #143

Seattle police wanted to experiment with using drones for surveillance. The people liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #147

The Republican Party (eom) StevieM Aug 2013 #154

Excellent post. Excellent resource. I am bookmarking this. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #155

People interested in facts. Or in other words, Republicans. nt Sivafae Aug 2013 #162

I, for one, can not recommend enough.The fact that this is on the front page should grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #181

Thanks for this post. eilen Aug 2013 #184

You're welcome and thank you for the reply. Obviously, the enemies of critical thought are Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #215

My Male Pattern Baldness Throckmorton Aug 2013 #190

Yes life in American is horrible treestar Aug 2013 #191

NYT editorial: Sentencing Reform Starts to Pay Off ProSense Aug 2013 #197

that is why he was elected twice madrchsod Aug 2013 #201

wtf did Obama have to do with citizens united? eh? spanone Aug 2013 #208

If you read the thread title, "Citizens United" REMAINS UNCHANGED UNDER OBAMA. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #213

President Obama is not a dictator. moobu2 Aug 2013 #227

Seriously? This is the second time someone has attempted to promote the concept that Obama Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #236

You should really educate yourself on how our three geek tragedy Aug 2013 #231

Jeezus, what have we done? Th1onein Aug 2013 #228

Ahhh... 99Forever Aug 2013 #229

K&R woo me with science Aug 2013 #239