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friendly_iconoclast

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27. And many Democrats and some DUers feel differently than you do

Sun Aug 4, 2013, 02:59 PM

Aug 2013

If you'd like gun discussions gone from GD, the Ask the Administrators group awaits your attentions.

Of course, that will also mean that anti-gun posts will be banned...
In the meantime, as long as posts follow the rules and Terms Of Service, they're allowed here.

I'm also going to say this as gently as possible-

Has it not occurred to you that part of your (the collective "your", not you personally) problem
is that, for a movement that claims the mantle of popularity you actually do very little that
moves the uncommitted to act in the ways you'd like them to?

Convincing those that already agree with you is one thing- but to get people that are on the fence
to move your way is difficult, and I don't see you as moving in that direction.

Wanting to listen only to those that agree with you is a recipe for political disaster-
do we not laugh at the Fox News/Limbaugh audience for doing just that?

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"NRA talking points"? How about anti-gun talking points? [View all] friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 OP

LOL.."WONKY STATISTICS" pipoman Aug 2013 #1

I have read a lot of those Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #2

There is a reason why there is a "gungeon" group on DU. It is where DU madinmaryland Aug 2013 #3

It would appear you've missed the pinned post at the top of the GD page: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #4

Not to mention... derby378 Aug 2013 #10

Yep, but they billh58 Aug 2013 #40

like the idiots who shoot guns and have their bullets spill over and kill innocent people samsingh Dec 2014 #78

I cant believe it. beevul Aug 2013 #5

No one here has shown evidence of one, to my knowledge. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #6

Nearly 12 hours later, and still no... beevul Aug 2013 #7

We'll just have to ask the next person that mentions "NRA talking points"... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #8

Try this billh58 Aug 2013 #41

Well done. Glad to see at least one of you shows some initiative. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #44

Good advice, and you billh58 Aug 2013 #45

Um... beevul Aug 2013 #46

I'd say the first link qualifies, the rest are a tossup friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #47

Help me out here... beevul Aug 2013 #49

I think the NRA is a bit more confident about messaging. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #63

*Nothing about "what points to actually make."* pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #75

You don't think billh58 Aug 2013 #50

Produce them. beevul Aug 2013 #52

You know jackshit billh58 Aug 2013 #54

now now Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #55

Aww, man. billh58 Aug 2013 #61

I know how you talk to others. beevul Aug 2013 #56

They *apparently* prepared it for the Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #53

Apparently some idiots billh58 Aug 2013 #59

For what it's worth, I share your low opinion of the NRA. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #62

Or possibly because the majority of DUers have decided to stop feeding the gun trolls polluting GD? Electric Monk Aug 2013 #15

The OP even said it wasn't meant to be taken seriously derby378 Aug 2013 #18

Now, be kind- that lot tend to get a little frustrated and cranky when someone is progun... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #22

Would that statement also embrace the anti-gun trolls polluting GD? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #21

If we were on ar-15.com then gun control advocates would be the trolls. We aren't. We're on DU. nt Electric Monk Aug 2013 #25

And many Democrats and some DUers feel differently than you do friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #27

Even your choice of words shows you're not really interested in debate. Electric Monk Aug 2013 #28

I'm all in favor of sensible gun laws. That's only reasonable, after all. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #29

This isn't debate, it's playing Gotcha, and you think you did but I think you failed. I'm done here. Electric Monk Aug 2013 #30

*snort* Spot on. n/t X_Digger Aug 2013 #32

It's now unavailable at the given link. How *very* unsurprising... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #9

Already got my copy, but thanks for the offer derby378 Aug 2013 #11

Its almost as if they're ashamed to be caught hosting it... beevul Aug 2013 #12

It might simply be that they don't own the copyright. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #13

Update: the manual is still there derby378 Aug 2013 #19

It was 404 about an hour or so ago friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #20

I'm not *quite* ready to call the idea of "NRA talking points" a pious fraud... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #14

"Pious fraud"... beevul Aug 2013 #16

We'll see. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #17

Someone stepped up to the plate in post #41 friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #48

I feel like I've been pintobean Aug 2013 #23

You are a bad person for posting that... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #24

Mine went 0-6 leave it pintobean Aug 2013 #39

Quick. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #74

I love the smell of cordite in the morning... MrScorpio Aug 2013 #26

The obvious reply would be: What does antigun lobbying smell like? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #31

Smells like the EU, Oceania and Japan where guns aren't so welcome and life isn't so cheap coldmountain Aug 2013 #33

forgot china Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #34

Why not get our thinking up and compare ourselves to Japan with almost no gun crime coldmountain Aug 2013 #36

You know, it's funny... MrScorpio Aug 2013 #38

Who's scared? The murder rate is half what it was thirty years ago. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #43

Now, see... That's a very typical gunhumping reaction you have there MrScorpio Aug 2013 #58

Insulting me seems to makes you feel better about yourself, so insult away. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #60

I'm fine, dude. MrScorpio Aug 2013 #67

NRA election spending: $24 million. Brady Campaign: $5,816 muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #35

Patriots of convenience these gun lovers coldmountain Aug 2013 #37

That says rather more about the "supporters" of gun control than the NRA, I think. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #42

But when gun control organises, some DUers make threads like this, implying there's something wrong muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #72

No, thats a mischaracterization. beevul Aug 2013 #73

If something looks fake. Just Saying Aug 2013 #51

what about the new links? Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #64

No Just Saying Aug 2013 #66

talking points Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #68

This site has information that's interesting Just Saying Aug 2013 #71

cached version Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #69

Yeah I can see that one Just Saying Aug 2013 #70

UPDATE: I found another one, "Voicing Our Values�To Curtail Gun Violence" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #57

just went to the first link Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #65

Wouldn't It Be Great if Everybody Had a Gun? stone space Dec 2014 #76

"Happiness is a warm gun": John Lennon (9 October 1940 � 8 December 1980) stone space Dec 2014 #77