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In reply to the discussion: Taking showers everyday is very American and unnecessary [View all]pnwmom
(110,254 posts)77. Some pine tar soaps do contain carcinogens, or "likely carcinogens."
http://www.ehow.com/about_5465183_health-risks-pine-tar-soap.html
1. Creosote
◦ Most pine tar and pine oil is made using a closed-kiln process that keeps it pure. If pine tar is made in an open kiln, the smoke and little fragments of unburned wood can come in contact with the tar and result in the creation of creosote, a known carcinogen. A 2003 study by the Scientific Committee on Cosmetic Products and Non-Food Products found that "wood tar and wood tar preparations do pose a health risk when used in used in cosmetic products." For this reason, most commercially produced pine tar soaps say "Creosote-free" right on the label.
2. 1,4 Dioxane
◦ One potential toxin found in pine tar soap is 1,4 dioxane, also just called dioxane. This is not regulated by the Food and Drug Administration because it's not an ingredient itself; it's a byproduct of other ingredients. Studies done by the Agency for Toxic Substances & Disease Registry have shown that dioxane at high doses can cause kidney and liver damage, and has been proven to cause irritation to the nose and mouth when inhaled as vapor. According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1,4-dioxane is "reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen." Though most soaps and cosmetics contain only trace amounts of dioxane, some exceed the FDA's recommended exposure levels.
3. How to Avoid Toxins
◦ As with anything you eat, drink or apply to your body, read the labels. Dioxane is a byproduct of the following chemicals, which are used to offset the harshness of other ingredients: PEG, polyethylene, polyethylene glycol, polyoxyethylene, polyethoxyethylene or polyoxynolethylene. Avoid buying pine tar soap containing these ingredients. Also, if the label doesn't say "Creosote free," don't buy it. Or, contact the manufacturer and ask if the pine tar it uses is made via closed-kiln or open-kiln. Avoid soaps using open-kilned pine tar.
1. Creosote
◦ Most pine tar and pine oil is made using a closed-kiln process that keeps it pure. If pine tar is made in an open kiln, the smoke and little fragments of unburned wood can come in contact with the tar and result in the creation of creosote, a known carcinogen. A 2003 study by the Scientific Committee on Cosmetic Products and Non-Food Products found that "wood tar and wood tar preparations do pose a health risk when used in used in cosmetic products." For this reason, most commercially produced pine tar soaps say "Creosote-free" right on the label.
2. 1,4 Dioxane
◦ One potential toxin found in pine tar soap is 1,4 dioxane, also just called dioxane. This is not regulated by the Food and Drug Administration because it's not an ingredient itself; it's a byproduct of other ingredients. Studies done by the Agency for Toxic Substances & Disease Registry have shown that dioxane at high doses can cause kidney and liver damage, and has been proven to cause irritation to the nose and mouth when inhaled as vapor. According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1,4-dioxane is "reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen." Though most soaps and cosmetics contain only trace amounts of dioxane, some exceed the FDA's recommended exposure levels.
3. How to Avoid Toxins
◦ As with anything you eat, drink or apply to your body, read the labels. Dioxane is a byproduct of the following chemicals, which are used to offset the harshness of other ingredients: PEG, polyethylene, polyethylene glycol, polyoxyethylene, polyethoxyethylene or polyoxynolethylene. Avoid buying pine tar soap containing these ingredients. Also, if the label doesn't say "Creosote free," don't buy it. Or, contact the manufacturer and ask if the pine tar it uses is made via closed-kiln or open-kiln. Avoid soaps using open-kilned pine tar.
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Living in CA during a water shortage I learned a lot about little ways to reduce water use. n/t
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2013
#280
Soap manufacturers did large advertising to make people think they needed to bathe once a day.
vinny9698
Aug 2013
#90
I shower every day - sometimes more than once, depending on temperature and activity.
SwissTony
Aug 2013
#269
I don't shower everyday and don't care if you can smell me or not. I don't exist just to please you.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#140
I agree. I can smell people that don't take two showers a day, through their cloths without
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#171
Same here, I just wet my hair to style it and let it dry, and the curls do the rest. n/t
RKP5637
Aug 2013
#14
except for weekends, i wash my scalp daily because it gets oily, but i only wash my scalp.
ellenfl
Aug 2013
#95
The problem is that I like to work out, and then I sweat, and I really need to wash it.
Arugula Latte
Aug 2013
#136
I have curly hair. I rinse my hair briefly daily and shampoo three time each week.
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#179
I don't really sweat and do not smell, it takes little deodorant for me. My dermatologist
RKP5637
Aug 2013
#10
Same here. My dermatologist told me to only wash my hair once a week and shower
Auntie Bush
Aug 2013
#311
Same here. If I go to bed without bathing, my skin itches all night, I can't sleep. nt
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#183
That's why I like to shower every morning. That great feel of being refreshed.
CTyankee
Aug 2013
#251
+1 I'm a roadie, I live on a tour bus with 12 people who work 18 hour days..
SomethingFishy
Aug 2013
#51
I can just see the Freepers / GOOpers / Teabaggers laughing at the "smelly hippies"
Triana
Aug 2013
#19
And then there is camper ass or monkey butt when you camp too long without a shower.
Hassin Bin Sober
Aug 2013
#48
I've heard that charcoal and chlorophyllin will work. I am sorry you have to deal with this. nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#198
It's hormonal for sure. I think Kirks is miraculous but maybe it's chemically matched to some .
vanlassie
Aug 2013
#85
I'll stick with my daily shower, particularly in August. To each his own . . .
branford
Aug 2013
#34
You have to understand that I was on an Aircraft Carrier and my job was aircraft maintenance...
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2013
#106
Got caught once soaped up from head to toe when the water was turned off.
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2013
#124
Lucky you, the majority of my time was spent above the hangar bays on the 02 or 03 levels.
Revanchist
Aug 2013
#126
Now that I live in a motorhome, that how I shower, daily. Sucked at first but now
SammyWinstonJack
Aug 2013
#114
the way I work in the garden, you wouldn't want to be near me after just a sponge bath!
NRaleighLiberal
Aug 2013
#73
except for when living in an apartment we've always had septic tanks where we live.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#180
i've spent time around a lot of europeans...i'll take the american 'unnecessary' way thank you
spanone
Aug 2013
#119
To be truthful, Europeans didn't know what a bath was until they ran into the Arabs
malaise
Aug 2013
#131
I don't shower everyday but boy do I cherish the days I do. I have really bad lower back pain.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#150
Most of the US is S of 40N latitude, the same as S. Spain, N Egypt, and Tel Aviv.
politicat
Aug 2013
#152
luckily some of us have partners who love us no matter what. After you've been
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#174
that's just it. when you're in love your partners natural smell is nice. Let's say you're in love
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#182
Not meaning to be rude, just wondering as I was with a "nice guy" like that once.
uppityperson
Aug 2013
#220
When I was younger I met a smoking hot european woman from one of the Germanys.
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#191
Screw that. People who don't shower daily stink, especially the ones who are sure they don't.
Codeine
Aug 2013
#164
I thought those were so cool. I assumed they were from artesian wells or something...
Hekate
Aug 2013
#302
In college I had a landlady who claimed that. I could smell when she had let herself into my room...
Hekate
Aug 2013
#304
Sorry but... Not even I can tolerate my feet unless they are washed every 12 hours or so
Ohio Joe
Aug 2013
#201
pipoman - You, Sir, have gained a special position in my relationships with DUers.
ConcernedCanuk
Aug 2013
#282
I'm going to spoil your bliss by telling you what you think about Europe is probably 40+ years old
CreekDog
Aug 2013
#222
I shower twice a day and I live in PHOENIX! I am a criminal water waster.
Safetykitten
Aug 2013
#224
Along with quitting showers I have stopped wiping my butt. Saves a lot of trees and...
Demo_Chris
Aug 2013
#228
Stay out of my bathroom! You gonna tell me how many times a day I'm 'allowed' to shit next?
Baclava
Aug 2013
#236
whatever you do, don't start a bidet thread here on DU. People here get incensed over the whole
CTyankee
Aug 2013
#253
when I travel to Europe it's great to have it in the hotel room. It's a good thing.
CTyankee
Aug 2013
#281
Trust me, don't go there. You will get SUCH a pushback, it is amazing and discouraging...
CTyankee
Aug 2013
#289
And quite frankly this whole brushing and flossing thing has gotten way out of hand.
Ganja Ninja
Aug 2013
#272
I imagine many people believe they themselves do not smell unpleasant to others...
LanternWaste
Aug 2013
#274
It is necessary, especially if you work in the automotive industry or any manual labor job
DainBramaged
Aug 2013
#309