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117. Did Paul write the Gospels?

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 07:59 PM

Feb 2012

Much of what I told you came from them, after all, are you saying they don't represent Jesus either?

Also, you seem to not understand this, I didn't say they were the same, but similar in how they attempted to control their followers, both David Koresh and Jesus. Of course, this is assuming Jesus even existed, which is far from proven. Most likely he is an amalgamation of several different people of that time and prophets of the OT who were combined to be the "son of God", mostly for the purpose of fulfilling prophecy.

Look, I get it, you worship a Disney version of Jesus, I'm sure it makes you feel better, but it surely isn't the Jesus of the Bible, but simply a fantasy you created that can make Jesus palpable to your modern, secular, morality.

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Santorum: There's no such thing as a liberal Christian [View all] CanonRay Feb 2012 OP

What a complete A$$! The Jesus of his bible is the model for a "Liberal" Christian. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #1

In Santorum's world NewJeffCT Feb 2012 #37

I will pay Icky Ricky $10,000,000 if he can show me any original quote (in English) by Jesus. What Vincardog Feb 2012 #179

Republican Jesus a2liberal Feb 2012 #73

that is why I love Jesus, he was a lib. roguevalley Feb 2012 #83

A pro-slavery lib, that's new. n/t Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #143

wow. you are a piece of work. Paul wrote the story of the Christ. I roguevalley Feb 2012 #182

Really? He wrote Luke? I was not aware of that. Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #185

words out of my mouth rtracey Feb 2012 #173

Keep talking, Rick jberryhill Feb 2012 #2

Oh, Rick. You so crazy! Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #3

fuck you rick sanctimonious spanone Feb 2012 #4

you took the words right out of my mouth n/t dana_b Feb 2012 #129

Other than Jesus that is... lunatica Feb 2012 #5

Yeah, but Jesus was Jewish so he doesn't count. Richardo Feb 2012 #16

One more of those my way or the highway malaise Feb 2012 #6

lol, Santorum continues to have delusions of grandeur quinnox Feb 2012 #7

I missed the announcement!!! tonybgood Feb 2012 #86

I can't take it anymore..... livetohike Feb 2012 #8

Nope. HughBeaumont Feb 2012 #18

I know livetohike Feb 2012 #24

I've pretty much turned off the TV since that time... October Feb 2012 #160

Yeah no kidding! I wonder how many people he is turning off? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #51

Hopefully every woman eligible to vote and as many men as possible n/t livetohike Feb 2012 #66

I know, my ears have started to bleed. smirkymonkey Feb 2012 #67

We have to mute the tv when he is on and my husband livetohike Feb 2012 #76

Narrow minded and intolerant. n/t RDANGELO Feb 2012 #9

Matthew 25:41-46 aquart Feb 2012 #10

I wish some folks here at DU would realize how asinine THEY sound Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #11

Unfortunate! atreides1 Feb 2012 #40

Actually Santorum sounds just like Liberal Christians condemning conservative Christians... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #78

condemning false interpretations of the good works of Jesus roguevalley Feb 2012 #87

I agree. Where is the "Christ" in fundementalist Christianity? Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #96

as long as you're the one who gets to decide which interpretation is true and which is false.... mike_c Feb 2012 #104

Really? I found Jesus' words and actions to be contradictory, in many cases immoral... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #106

+1 cleanhippie Feb 2012 #107

Says you, yet you engage in the same behavior you accuse them of doing. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #109

ah, so all sides are equivalent? How quaint. roguevalley Feb 2012 #112

They are in their argument about who is interpreting the bible correctly. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #113

I haven't seen that. I have seen Christians condemn people claiming to be followers of Christ sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #119

What makes them anti-Christian? Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #123

It's not hard. Are you familiar with the teachings of Christ? sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #127

I was raised a Christian, so yes, and I found them muddled, contradictory... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #130

Really? I had a completely different experience, and credit them with the fact that I could never, sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #140

I doubt it, it probably was your compassion and integrity that made you a liberal... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #141

I don't credit religion with who I am, but it did influence me at an early age. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #145

"I just assumed everyone felt the same way." See, this is why the majority can NEVER tell a... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #146

Privilege? How do you come to that conclusion? I was not 'privileged' other than having a good sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #152

You never heard of majority privilege, like white privilege, or straight privilege, or... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #153

You are making huge assumptions here. Lol, sorry, but you could not be more wrong. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #156

I hate when people misuse words, so really, explain how my so called ideas are a form of religion... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #158

Also, that was your family influencing you, not the religion itself... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #148

I agree with Sabrina PowerToThePeople Feb 2012 #159

Thank you, you are correct. I am wondering why there is anything wrong with thinking people sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #161

I'm talking about privilege in society, as in not facing discrimination, shunning or... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #166

i'm curious what contradictions and Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #181

Love your enemies(but condemn them to hell), follow the old law(I fulfilled it)... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #183

HARDLY. You've not heard of the Berrigan Brothers? THEY were Liberal Christians. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #139

And? Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #142

what you said, Nuclear Unicorn roguevalley Feb 2012 #85

Pretty much. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #168

That must be news to Jesus no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #12

Ok, make this jackass the nominee and play that clip and he will outrage millions. WI_DEM Feb 2012 #13

The United Church of Christ is generally pretty liberal... LeftinOH Feb 2012 #14

You're correct, in fact many consider them 'too darn' liberal! Here are FailureToCommunicate Feb 2012 #100

"used a non-literal interpretation of the Bible"?!?! THAT'S HIS BEEF? Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #15

Question 1 for the Obama/Santorum Debate: FSogol Feb 2012 #17

Jesus himself got into lots of trouble with the Santorums of his day deutsey Feb 2012 #33

I Think Jesus Would Use Your Sig Line When Speaking To Ricky! HangOnKids Feb 2012 #42

Ha! I think he would too. deutsey Feb 2012 #118

Thank you. The Pope is not mentioned in the Bible. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #52

yeah. he's a total jackass n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #147

geez, there's parts of the bible I'm glad people don't take literally newspeak Feb 2012 #56

Even this longtime atheist knows that the RCC hifiguy Feb 2012 #57

its his side of the pew that is rewriting the bible to clip liberalism not us roguevalley Feb 2012 #88

Funny, most of DU's Christians try to say there's no other kind dmallind Feb 2012 #19

+ a bazillion n/t Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #49

heh. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #54

The rational answer is, of course, "none." They're all Christians. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #70

But there is a way to tell. It's easy. dawg Feb 2012 #77

You also have to hate your families, abandon them, condemn non-believers to everlasting... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #80

Jesus gave two commandments. dawg Feb 2012 #81

"If your friends or your family or your property comes in the way of that relationship, you are..." Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #84

Try to think about this concept in non-theist terms. dawg Feb 2012 #91

No it isn't, for one, non-belief harms no one, basically you are saying... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #102

I was at a loss for words on how to respond. boppers Feb 2012 #165

Non-belief harms no one. Belief harms no one. Ultimately it is the choices we make. dawg Feb 2012 #176

Sounds like you are stretching things quite a bit here, and belief can harm others... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #184

I believe Jesus was one of the great thinkers of history. dawg Feb 2012 #188

Its very difficult for me to take you seriously when you say things like that... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #189

You build an impressive case. dawg Feb 2012 #191

if you follow fanatics that happens. If you follow Jesus you can change the world roguevalley Feb 2012 #89

You said it, man Son of Gob Feb 2012 #108

Jesus was a fanatic, don't you get that... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #110

he didn't. Paul said he did. Paul wrote the story after Jesus roguevalley Feb 2012 #111

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #114

Did Paul write the Gospels? Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #117

I'd like to see a cite for that. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #169

I was introduced to the concept of 'othering' in my communication and WGS classes. RadiationTherapy Feb 2012 #20

Well, I "other" HIM AND his fellow Republicans. Sue me. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #137

God always adheres to the believer's political beliefs. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #21

How true! JDPriestly Feb 2012 #60

Santorum: "Ain't nobody got the truth but me." Bake Feb 2012 #22

Yeah, that Jeebus fella was a real republican through and through...right? truebrit71 Feb 2012 #23

Ricky, "I did NOT say Obama wasn't a Christian last week but this week I am saying it. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #25

If Joseph was an orthodox Jew he would have had Mary stoned to death. Loudmxr Feb 2012 #26

Wow, so he's admitting he's a fundamentalist Catholic. The Christian Taliban is here! sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #27

Not exactly a state secret. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #138

Wait, Rick! BigDemVoter Feb 2012 #28

pffft davidthegnome Feb 2012 #71

There's no such thing as a fake Christian who actually follows the teaching of Christ. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #29

I guess this douchebag never read the gospels... LynneSin Feb 2012 #30

They do make a Cliff Notes New Testament. raouldukelives Feb 2012 #31

Rick is so wrong on this Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #32

Put a bullet in the cylinder, spin, cock the revolver, point it at us & pull the trigger... Click. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #34

The guy who was probably the most "liberal" Christian ever was hung on a cross. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #35

Hey Ricky, Jesus was a left wing, radical Jew, murdered by people like you. phleshdef Feb 2012 #36

Oh, bite me, Santorum! hamsterjill Feb 2012 #38

Wrong. Conservative Christian is the oxymoron. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #39

And Rush Is The OXY! n/t HangOnKids Feb 2012 #43

You realize you are using the same fallacy as Santorum on this one, right? n/t Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #50

Christianity Is Conservative? HangOnKids Feb 2012 #58

Actually, Christianity is whatever a Christian who follows it thinks it is... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #125

They have reasoning/support for their argument. You for yours. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #174

Supply Side Jesus strikes again thelordofhell Feb 2012 #41

Using the non-literal interpretation of the Bible. There is the key to understanding him. And that jwirr Feb 2012 #44

Again Iliyah Feb 2012 #45

And the Puritans proceeded to persecute all those Salem witches! lunatica Feb 2012 #99

Persecuted religious groups fled or were kicked out of Europe because AlbertCat Feb 2012 #120

Oh goodie......... gawd wars! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #46

so Santorum says the Pope isn't a sincere Christian Enrique Feb 2012 #47

I wonder what version of the Bible Santorum JDPriestly Feb 2012 #48

I have a lot of Catholic friends and not one of them has read the roguevalley Feb 2012 #90

I was a Catholic who read the Bible cover to cover, hence why I'm an atheist now. n/t Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #149

Precisely! JDPriestly Feb 2012 #187

I can think of one--Jesus himself librechik Feb 2012 #53

"non-literal interpretation of the Bible" You mean like the Catholic Church uses? white_wolf Feb 2012 #55

I will certainly allow them all the credibility they indeed warrant. LanternWaste Feb 2012 #59

Non-literal is wrong? ohheckyeah Feb 2012 #61

because he was gnostic. The literalists of course burned the gnostics. roguevalley Feb 2012 #92

Cut the guy some slack... 4_TN_TITANS Feb 2012 #62

I would hope that the UU's wouldn't vote for him anyway BlueDemKev Feb 2012 #65

I know a whole congregation that wouldn't. 4_TN_TITANS Feb 2012 #79

So Santorum obviously believes that I'm not real..... BlueDemKev Feb 2012 #63

I guess that rules out Jesus then. And me. How dare I be a liberal...and a Christian! Jennicut Feb 2012 #64

Plainly Written/Literal Interpretation DallasNE Feb 2012 #68

He's vying with Newt & Romney for title of first preacher. Initech Feb 2012 #69

Walking the Repub Plank. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2012 #72

So it is literally true thucythucy Feb 2012 #74

BURN the heretics - bring back the Spanish Inquisition nm Ian62 Feb 2012 #75

He's not really a Catholic since he believes in War and the Death Penalty. nt Ilsa Feb 2012 #82

Who made you God? cmd Feb 2012 #93

Jesus wasn't a Christian and his sermons would be shouted down by today's smug right winger aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2012 #94

then they need to take his name out of their label- Bluerthanblue Feb 2012 #97

Santorum is actually a Secret Plot by Turbineguy Feb 2012 #95

Isn't that like "There's No Such Thing As A Sane Republican?" DFW Feb 2012 #98

I can think of one: Jesus! emsimon33 Feb 2012 #101

hey, frothy, you just insulted one of my dearest friends (now deceased), who was, in her own words, niyad Feb 2012 #103

Either he never read the Sermon on the Mount, or he's just plain nuckin' futs. Fortran Feb 2012 #105

Look in the mirror, Santorum leighperson Feb 2012 #115

"To take what is plainly written and say that 'I don't agree with that,..." Fritz67 Feb 2012 #116

Autumn: There's no such thing as a conservative Christian Autumn Feb 2012 #121

I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword - Jesus Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #126

Yes he did say that. He also said to take care of each other. He spoke love, not hate Autumn Feb 2012 #128

Actually he spoke of both love and hate, charity and selfishness... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #132

Really got a hard-on in this thread huh? Union Scribe Feb 2012 #170

I don't resent them, I just find it hypocritical to criticize Santorum for things they do as well... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #171

Rick Santorum can go fuck himself. boxman15 Feb 2012 #122

If he wants to read the Bible literally Nancy Waterman Feb 2012 #124

Hey Ricky! There's no such thing as a "compassionate conservative." muntrv Feb 2012 #131

I bet he was wearing clothing made of BLENDED CLOTH when he said that, the hypocrite! Jester Messiah Feb 2012 #133

Now he's even pissing off sincere conservative Christians grantcart Feb 2012 #134

Jesus wept. nt Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #135

Santorum is doing some serious perversion-squelching. Maybe he likes dogs. WinkyDink Feb 2012 #136

Simpleton full of himself. Huff n Puff bullshit. He is the first stone thrower apparently. lonestarnot Feb 2012 #144

As an atheist, I wish more liberals would build coalitions with people of faith. JackBeck Feb 2012 #150

Many people of faith are liberals kwassa Feb 2012 #186

God is too busy influencing the outcome of sporting events to get involved in politics Telly Savalas Feb 2012 #151

But isn't Santorum liberal with his prudishness? Blue Owl Feb 2012 #154

a vote for Rick is a vote for Torquemada! triguy46 Feb 2012 #155

and there are no intelligent republican candidates spanone Feb 2012 #157

Hey, Rick, THE 9th COMMANDMENT Exodus 20:16 "Thou shalt not bear false witness." Tennessee Gal Feb 2012 #162

The more I read about this guy, the more I wonder...Is he running tsuki Feb 2012 #163

Stuck up R.Blue Feb 2012 #164

Hell. Jesus was pretty liberal..... WCGreen Feb 2012 #167

Church Of The Latter Day Rick sellitman Feb 2012 #172

Great, both my Irony AND my Hypocrisy meters just exploded. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #175

Stupid is as Stupid does... AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #177

Ayn Rand loves you and died for your sins Taverner Feb 2012 #178

No such thing as an electable Religious Extremist.....nt Evasporque Feb 2012 #180

No true Scotsman. n/t rucky Feb 2012 #190