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randome

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38. The DEA isn't so much protecting us from terrorists as from drug cartels.

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 11:17 AM

Aug 2013

We see the same process in TV cop shows all the time, don't we?

"We can't nail him on this but maybe if we..." And on it goes, trying to create the right evidentiary trail that will stand up in court.

Isn't this the same thing? (Not that TV cop shows are an accurate barometer of reality.)
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DEA Agents Are Told To Cover Up Spying Program Used Against Americans [View all] xchrom Aug 2013 OP

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #1

that awkward moment when you see it's really worse than you'd imagined. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #2

The Minions will be here shortly to tell us all that this is actually a good thing Fumesucker Aug 2013 #3

i think they've worn themselves out on this one. lots of confusion that this isn't a fake scandal... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #4

They have certainly worn out my tolerance for spin and bullshit Fumesucker Aug 2013 #6

+10000000 - you and many others :) nashville_brook Aug 2013 #61

Maybe they are still off from the weekend. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #19

i was starting to wonder if they're on recess. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #62

OBEY!!! nt. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #67

So any supporters here of the surveillance state want to continue defending this bullshit? davidn3600 Aug 2013 #5

Your strawman doesn't exist on DU. nt tridim Aug 2013 #7

Anything to say about the OP? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #11

I agree. No progressive would defend this BS. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #8

Unless they are being re defined. zeemike Aug 2013 #10

Let the weasel speak begin. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #15

It is beyond the realm of possibility that these programs will NOT be used Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #9

That is certainly consistent with what we've learned in the Chicago area. We never have AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #12

it's all for the greater good, blah blah blah NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #13

So creating alternate realities passes for justice now? Pholus Aug 2013 #14

SOD program is another secret.... midnight Aug 2013 #16

Is this one of those super-secret programs whose details can be kept from Congress? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #17

They are undated documents and Reuters doesn't say how they obtained them. randome Aug 2013 #18

Why do you hate The Constitution? Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #21

Isn't this the same thing when an organized crime boss is taken down? randome Aug 2013 #23

No, it's not. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #70

From TFA Pholus Aug 2013 #24

"Some experts say". That's not much to go on regarding something that's been in use for decades now. randome Aug 2013 #32

As the investigative process is part of the evidence, Pholus Aug 2013 #36

The DEA isn't so much protecting us from terrorists as from drug cartels. randome Aug 2013 #38

No, it isn't. Pholus Aug 2013 #40

You really should be better informed by now Fumesucker Aug 2013 #41

Regarding marijuana, I mostly agree with you. randome Aug 2013 #43

Alcohol is "hard stuff" by those standards Fumesucker Aug 2013 #45

And it doesn't appear ProSense Aug 2013 #25

Let me help you out a bit... Pholus Aug 2013 #27

What is that? ProSense Aug 2013 #29

From TFA, part 2. Pholus Aug 2013 #31

That still has nothing to do with the point. ProSense Aug 2013 #34

Really. Your point seemed to be... Pholus Aug 2013 #42

Oh brother. ProSense Aug 2013 #48

Why not? You're ignoring them. Pholus Aug 2013 #49

What does 2+2=? AppleBottom Aug 2013 #69

The claim is that the DEA is lying even to prosecutors about where they get evidence Fumesucker Aug 2013 #28

Plus it is hard to miss this paragraph Rex Aug 2013 #30

What in the world are you talking about? Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #33

SOD has been in operation since 1994. randome Aug 2013 #35

It is egregious Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #37

I agree that can be a very serious problem. randome Aug 2013 #39

"So long as the evidence is strong enough, does it matter whether it came from route A or route B?" Marr Aug 2013 #44

Fuck yes it matters. My god, you are becoming more transparent. morningfog Aug 2013 #66

And like good little fascist, the DEA does it without a second thought. Rex Aug 2013 #20

At least some prosecutors "get it" based on the article... Pholus Aug 2013 #22

Kick LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #26

WAPO: "The NSA is giving your phone records to the DEA. And the DEA is covering it up." Catherina Aug 2013 #46

Funny how no one seems to ask the central question about NSA/DEA cooperation. randome Aug 2013 #47

Has the DEA made that argument? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #50

No, the DEA has not said that. randome Aug 2013 #52

Agendas differ Fumesucker Aug 2013 #53

I think that's a good point. randome Aug 2013 #54

"report makes no explicit connection between the DEA and the earlier NSA bulk phone surveillance" ProSense Aug 2013 #51

The Problem of Ignorance: The Decline of Critical Thinking Zorra Aug 2013 #55

Reuters: How DEA program differs from recent NSA revelations ProSense Aug 2013 #57

Make up your mind. "nothing to do" with the metadata program? or "we dont know"? David Krout Aug 2013 #59

The person responsible for bring this information forward is a traitor!!!! AppleBottom Aug 2013 #56

And this kiddies, is how a *police state* nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #58

I rarely agree with you, nadin- but you are 100% correct on this one. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #60

what nadin said nashville_brook Aug 2013 #64

Rachel just covered this malaise Aug 2013 #63

Continuity in policy nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #65

Yep totally stopping the terrorist on American soil. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #68