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55. Sounds good!1 Here's an article about weirdness involving the Jet Propulsion Lab & Aleister CROWLEY

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Mon Aug 5, 2013, 12:07 PM

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Leah REMINI (King of Queens): "More to follow me out of Scientology" [View all] UTUSN Aug 2013 OP

Leah Remini did not choose Jenoch Aug 2013 #1

Ah, thanks!1 In previous news she has been saying her family is being supportive. UTUSN Aug 2013 #2

Wow! what a legacy. that would have to be Mimi Rogers, Cha Aug 2013 #37

yeah, I wondered about that when I read it.. I was Cha Aug 2013 #35

Wait, what? "choosing Scientology in the first place is nutso judgment"? Really? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #3

Pretty much. But mental submission seems starker in the "newer" ones. I like Zeus, et al. n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #4

Perhaps only because it is not so ingrained in our culture. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #5

forget their doctrine & prophet for a sec -- elehhhhna Aug 2013 #6

On that we are in full agreement. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #7

Lots of mainstream Christians don't believe all the supernatural stuff. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #9

Doesn't one need to believe that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected days later? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #14

Lots of Christians read the bible as metaphor and not literal verbatim truth. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #18

I think the point is that not all believers follow this completely literal, almost child-like nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #22

While I understand your point, it seems to be mere rationalization to me. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #23

I agree that religion and public policy should be strictly separated. Also that all religious belief nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #36

Russell's teapot Major Nikon Aug 2013 #41

I've heard of that proposition before, and I agree. The unprovability is partly why I have no real nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #60

I could care less what someone believes so long as they aren't impacting me Major Nikon Aug 2013 #61

Agreed. Religious institutions, in my mind, are certainly a net negative. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #63

I believe the same thing you do Major Nikon Aug 2013 #64

Lots of Americans are incredibly gullible and superstitious. iemitsu Aug 2013 #33

Scientology has a lot of pure evil associated with it. Initech Aug 2013 #10

The same kind of examples can be found for any other religion. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #15

I don't think mainstream Christian denominations run slave labor camps. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #19

I don't think any other religions run slave labor camps. Initech Aug 2013 #20

Scientology is right up there with the Rajeeshnees, the Moonies, kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #21

Moonies are Christians Major Nikon Aug 2013 #42

Some might beg to differ on that point, lol. They say Rev. Moon is God (or was, IIRC he died). kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #57

Yes, Jesus in particular Major Nikon Aug 2013 #58

You can reduce reduce this to the absurd if it makes you feel better. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #25

Your point seems to be that you take everyone else's spiritual beliefs as a kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #27

It seems that the point really did fly over your head. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #32

They demonize the LGBT community by spewing pure unadulterated bigotry straight from the pulpit. Major Nikon Aug 2013 #44

The Catholic Church did in Ireland into the nineties. LeftyMom Aug 2013 #67

I thought we were talking about Christians here XemaSab Aug 2013 #68

I know you're joking, but some idiot won't and they're probably typing up a howler. LeftyMom Aug 2013 #69

Want a Cuba Libre? XemaSab Aug 2013 #71

Rum! Romanism! Ruin is sure to follow. LeftyMom Aug 2013 #72

AKA "Monday" in your house XemaSab Aug 2013 #73

It really is. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #12

And that makes it more nutso? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #16

the volcano stuff, the blackmailing, and believing you yourself have superpowers..... bettyellen Aug 2013 #17

To be fair, the abrahamic religions all did those things too. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #26

Eh. Scientology reads like a cynical farce of the WORST of religion though DirkGently Aug 2013 #30

Excellent post with thoughtful and informative comments. iemitsu Aug 2013 #38

It does for me, in the following sense: Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #31

The roman Catholic Church did not allow the Bible to be produced iemitsu Aug 2013 #39

Meh, people have been able to read and study different scholars interpretations bettyellen Aug 2013 #48

Yes but that debate is between believers, iemitsu Aug 2013 #50

non-believers have added to the debate too. and many of the believers do not believe or bettyellen Aug 2013 #54

Scientologists push their literature all the time oberliner Aug 2013 #43

They hide the really weird stuff, till you have spent bettyellen Aug 2013 #46

Interesting oberliner Aug 2013 #47

between the black mail (L Ron used to play the tapes for his own amusement) bettyellen Aug 2013 #49

You know a lot about this topic. oberliner Aug 2013 #51

Because I have a friend who lost a best friend to it, and he tried really hard to help him out of it bettyellen Aug 2013 #52

Pssst... CanSocDem Aug 2013 #65

Xenu is displeased. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #66

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Your argument in this thread is clear and sound. iemitsu Aug 2013 #40

Thanks. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #8

I've always liked Leah Remini. mzmolly Aug 2013 #11

I've known about Scientology's existence for only about a decade, TxDemChem Aug 2013 #13

Xenu is not amused. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #24

Watch the Southpark episode about Scientology, it is a classic! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #28

She's an idiot. Codeine Aug 2013 #29

She was indoctrinated by her parents, she didn't choose it. Avalux Aug 2013 #59

That is the weirdest shit.. it's hard to wrap my head Cha Aug 2013 #34

I heard she votes republican B Calm Aug 2013 #45

I just finished reading this book tabbycat31 Aug 2013 #53

Sounds good!1 Here's an article about weirdness involving the Jet Propulsion Lab & Aleister CROWLEY UTUSN Aug 2013 #55

I've seen Scientology as a mafia in the arts . olddots Aug 2013 #56

And how, exactly, did she get in? brooklynite Aug 2013 #62