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maxsolomon

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104. This architect says maybe

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:53 PM

Aug 2013

the article is fairly baised, and doesn't give a good accounting of the issues before the council. all of it could have been solved by getting a permit, and there's no good info on WHY charles thought he wouldn't get one.

besides the cherry-picked quotation, there could be legitimate issues:

1. is the land his father gave him subdivided to comply with local zoning?
2. was there structural design done by a licensed architect or engineer?
3. is there a clear, required design review process charlie chose to ignore?

Perhaps the reason is spelled out here, in a document studied, written and passed by his local government, and available to Charlie for the asking BEFORE he built a home:

http://www.naturalhomes.org/img/one-planet-development-guidance.pdf

AT LEAST TRY to get a permit.

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