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cali

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18. not sure what you're asking for here
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 03:58 PM
Aug 2013

but I believe that with one exception, all the studies that have been done with hemp oil for cancer, have either been conducted on mice or rats or on cancerous cell material. Guzman conducted a study with 9 people with advanced glioblastoma that entailed administration of a THC formula, through tubes, directly to the tumor site. All the patients died within a year. There was no control group in this study so it's impossible to state that the protocol did or did not prolong their lives. Clearly it did not cure the cancer.



Here's the abstract. You can read more at the link:

Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and other cannabinoids inhibit tumour growth and angiogenesis in animal models, so their potential application as antitumoral drugs has been suggested. However, the antitumoral effect of cannabinoids has never been tested in humans. Here we report the first clinical study aimed at assessing cannabinoid antitumoral action, specifically a pilot phase I trial in which nine patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme were administered THC intratumoraly. The patients had previously failed standard therapy (surgery and radiotherapy) and had clear evidence of tumour progression. The primary end point of the study was to determine the safety of intracranial THC administration. We also evaluated THC action on the length of survival and various tumour-cell parameters. A dose escalation regimen for THC administration was assessed. Cannabinoid delivery was safe and could be achieved without overt psychoactive effects. Median survival of the cohort from the beginning of cannabinoid administration was 24 weeks (95% confidence interval: 15–33). Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibited tumour-cell proliferation in vitro and decreased tumour-cell Ki67 immunostaining when administered to two patients. The fair safety profile of THC, together with its possible antiproliferative action on tumour cells reported here and in other studies, may set the basis for future trials aimed at evaluating the potential antitumoral activity of cannabinoids.

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/full/6603236a.html

I want to add, that the article in the op isn't a scientific one. It's a piece that pushes the use of hemp oil and the author's book- that's fine, but that's what it is and it doesn't address Guzman's study. Hell, the guy even claims that it was a hemp oil study, but that's not the case with any of Guzman's work.

Far more research needs to be conducted. It's funny, how here on DU we scoff at wingnuts who eschew science but quite often there are those who here who do the same. My point in this thread is that there is no evidence at all that hemp oil or THC or any of the other properties of cannabis, cure cancer. There's a slight body of encouraging research, and there are anecdotal accounts often in the form of testimonials. The latter is not, of course, falsifiable.

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more bullshit. Really fucking irresponsible bullshit at that. cali Aug 2013 #1
Hemp seed oil apparently cured a little precancerous skin lesion kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #2
First of all, as I said, marijuana and related products like hemp oil cali Aug 2013 #3
And what makes you an expert??? felix_numinous Aug 2013 #7
I didn't say I was an expert, hon. cali Aug 2013 #8
I have cancer and take it felix_numinous Aug 2013 #10
First of all, I hope things go well for you with the protocol cali Aug 2013 #12
Treatment is a better word felix_numinous Aug 2013 #14
Don't waste your time LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #15
Thanks-- I once had hope felix_numinous Aug 2013 #17
I wouldn't give up hope LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #23
so you're claiming that people who point out that there is no scientific evidence cali Aug 2013 #31
oh, ffs. I am not anti-pot. I use it medicinally for RSD cali Aug 2013 #19
I agree, they are a waste of time. Rex Aug 2013 #22
What's really interesting is this particular anti-pot DUer admits to having some success with kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #42
what's interesting to me is that cali Aug 2013 #52
You obviously didn't bother to read the hundreds of published, peer-reviewed articles kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #41
you clearly haven't read them and don't begin to know how to read even an abstract, cali Aug 2013 #51
Take some time and watch spartan61 Aug 2013 #4
I didn't say there wasn't something to it. Worthy of more research cali Aug 2013 #5
there won't be any clinical reasearch because.... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #79
oh for pity's sake. The U.S. is not the only country that conducts medical research cali Aug 2013 #81
you lost me there... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #82
that's the author of the article in the op. this thread is about the claims he makes cali Aug 2013 #85
ok so ?? wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #87
& one more.... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #80
Glad you know all. n/t BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #6
Link to your peer-reviewed study? tabasco Aug 2013 #11
not sure what you're asking for here cali Aug 2013 #18
If you did your homework you would know that the THC isn't the most beneficial kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #44
Guzman's studies and one clinical cali Aug 2013 #49
Right? Rex Aug 2013 #25
jaysus, hon. do you have problems reading? try post 18 cali Aug 2013 #30
You can take that "hon" and cram it. n/t leftyladyfrommo Aug 2013 #100
try reading post 18. cali Aug 2013 #103
Which is about as keen and as informed a query as asking for a peer-reviewed study concluding that C LanternWaste Aug 2013 #29
Wow, what a rude thing to say. Rex Aug 2013 #20
It's a fact. And I'm offended by snake oil claims that purport to cure cancer cali Aug 2013 #26
Who's the one here with the anti-science mind frame? Seems like you are, since you are ignoring my kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #45
Reminds me of all the 'cancer cured' claims.. when you read the fine print, it's in mice (again.) X_Digger Aug 2013 #90
exactly. It's either in mice or rats cali Aug 2013 #97
what, no response to actual facts and evidence? cali Aug 2013 #38
Yeah, dude's being a real dick here Bennyboy Aug 2013 #50
Why am I angry? The same reason that all wingnut science deniers make me angry cali Aug 2013 #53
“Natural News” Takes Idiotic to the Next Level cali Aug 2013 #54
The National Cancer Institute says otherwise... Bennyboy Aug 2013 #57
yes. I've read that. Do you understand what pre-clinical means? cali Aug 2013 #62
K&R B Calm Aug 2013 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #13
Please be careful when posting stuff like this War Horse Aug 2013 #16
Ignoring science: Not just for wingnuts. cali Aug 2013 #21
We medical people don't use the word "cure" but rarely when it comes to cancer or any other kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #46
no shit sherlock. of course medical personnel and scientists rarely use the word cure re cancer. cali Aug 2013 #65
Great article, despite the anti-pot crowd. Rex Aug 2013 #24
right. I'm anti-pot. so false. cali Aug 2013 #27
You use pot but yet you are anti-pot. Sounds like typical RW "I got mine, screw you" BS. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #73
lol. you're careening from ridiculous to absurd cali Aug 2013 #75
I'm just quoting you. In this thread you proclaimed that you were anti-pot. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #93
more making stuff up. FAIL. where in this thread do I say anything about being anti-pot? cali Aug 2013 #94
I'm pretty sure pro-science does equal anti-pot... LanternWaste Aug 2013 #32
I'm pro-science AND pro-pot. Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #47
well one out of two isn't bad. cali Aug 2013 #68
While it may be of benefit to cancer patients, the use of the MineralMan Aug 2013 #28
That article is not just hype. The author is lying by misrepresentation cali Aug 2013 #34
I was attempting to be somewhat polite. MineralMan Aug 2013 #36
sometimes calling it as it is, is important. this is reprehensible stuff cali Aug 2013 #37
My tendency is to discuss things politely. That's how I roll. MineralMan Aug 2013 #106
don't pat yourself too heavily on the back. I've you be plenty snarky cali Aug 2013 #107
Do you? Shall we compare transparency pages, then? MineralMan Aug 2013 #108
Then should I presume that heavy pot smokers don't catch Cancer? 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #33
Yeah, but that's not from the active ingredients that have been studied or are being used cali Aug 2013 #35
So much for my critical thinking skills ... as if I'm going to believe hemp oil cures cancer ..> YOHABLO Aug 2013 #39
Like this? RandiFan1290 Aug 2013 #43
For any of the doubters... AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #40
I'm familiar with those studies: yes there are preliminary studies indicating that cannibinoids may cali Aug 2013 #55
The Federal Government has discouraged studies of Marijuana because of the war on drugs AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #59
there are studies elsewhere in the world. Great Britain, Spain cali Aug 2013 #72
I think pro-legalization people are extremely disingenuous about medicinal properties Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #48
"...just want to get high...???" CanSocDem Aug 2013 #58
"This alone should reduce the number of cancer cases." - Probably one of the dumber claims in here. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #60
You mean I can avoid cancer by having more choice of drugs? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #61
I don't believe that. I think there are any number of people who actually buy into quackery cali Aug 2013 #78
Mark Sircus: QUACK, QUACK, QUACK cali Aug 2013 #56
I think his OMD syands for "Orchestral Manoeuvers in the Dark" Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #63
or "Only Make Deposits"- as in his bank account cali Aug 2013 #67
I saw OMD live in 1985 or 1986... SidDithers Aug 2013 #70
Cancer is not one disease... SidDithers Aug 2013 #64
quackery and nothing but quackery in the article. cali Aug 2013 #66
Your sigline couldn't be more appropriate here... SidDithers Aug 2013 #69
honestly, I find it truly disturbing that people here are calling this a great article cali Aug 2013 #71
Yep. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #92
"Dr. Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD, DM (P) (acupuncturist, doctor of oriental and pastoral medicine)" sagat Aug 2013 #74
Amazing that so many people are so stupid or gullible that they cite this guy cali Aug 2013 #76
the asshole quack also claims baking soda and maple syrup cure cancer cali Aug 2013 #77
it has been shown in studies to help fight cancer, but wonder cure my ass. dionysus Aug 2013 #83
actually, it's been shown to have some efficacy in some studies in mice and rats cali Aug 2013 #84
i know. i find it's peddled most by the "i wanna be able to smoke a joint walking down the street" dionysus Aug 2013 #86
apparently smoking it..... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #88
there have been no studies or clinical trials with humans on the efficacy of cali Aug 2013 #96
and there won't be! nt wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #98
yes, there will. In Spain, there's already been a THC trial cali Aug 2013 #101
tell me how big pharma can cash in.... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #104
seriously? because it's more than likely that effective treatment cali Aug 2013 #105
thank you for..... wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #110
Synthetic cannabinoid receptor agonists inhibit tumor growth and metastasis of breast cancer. wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #89
you realize those are preliminary studies, right? Not human trials. cali Aug 2013 #95
a human trial: wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #99
that's encouraging and interesting. what it isn't is trial. cali Aug 2013 #102
& k & r. eom. wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #91
Great info! BuddhaGirl Aug 2013 #109
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