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11. COPS ARE RAPING WOMEN IN TEXAS. story below

Mon Aug 5, 2013, 04:44 PM

Aug 2013

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/05/lawyers-illegal-body-cavity-searches-of-women-standard-policy-at-texas-traffic-stops/

Lawyer representing women who faced “unconstitutional” cavity searches of their genitals at traffic stops in Texas last year have said that the practice is essentially standard practice in many jurisdictions.

In two separate cases last year, four women said that they were humiliated with illegal cavity searches on the side of Texas highways. Angel Dobbs, 38, and her 24-year-old niece, Ashley Dobbs were searched after a trooper saw them throw a cigarette butt out the car window. And Brandy Hamilton, 27, and Alexandria Randle, 26, were searched after a trooper claimed he smelled marijuana.

“It’s ridiculous,” Dallas attorney and former police officer Peter Schulte told The New York Daily News. “We would never put our hands anywhere near someone’s private parts… When I saw that video I was shocked. I was a law enforcement officer for 16 years and I’ve never seen anything like it.”

“I think the Department of Public Safety is trying to figure out who in the world trained these troopers to think that this is OK,” Schulte added. “The law just doesn’t support that. It just doesn’t.”

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According to your opinion, are non consensual cavity searches a form of sexual assault? [View all] ZombieHorde Aug 2013 OP

absofuckinglutely. bunnies Aug 2013 #1

Warrant, or ... Koios Aug 2013 #4

They'd never get my consent. bunnies Aug 2013 #5

They might without you knowing it ... Koios Aug 2013 #6

And what does that have to do with penetrating my orifices? bunnies Aug 2013 #8

It has to do with searching your person ... Koios Aug 2013 #9

Ive never been handed a consent agreement by police. bunnies Aug 2013 #12

Nope, but ... Koios Aug 2013 #14

Consent for physical violation... bunnies Aug 2013 #16

Consent to personal search ... Koios Aug 2013 #17

Are you a woman? bunnies Aug 2013 #18

No; a man ... Koios Aug 2013 #26

A cop vs a doctor. bunnies Aug 2013 #29

Damn straight. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #31

Agreed, but ... Koios Aug 2013 #41

The cops have been fired... bunnies Aug 2013 #43

Sorry ... Koios Aug 2013 #49

non-consentual searches are not legit. bunnies Aug 2013 #50

You equate giving your doctor permission to check your prostate to being pulled over and assaulted uppityperson Aug 2013 #35

Those are not common in sexual assaults? W.T.F? uppityperson Aug 2013 #20

Advice (yours): I think you need to do some research about rape, including talk ... Koios Aug 2013 #28

Good grief. You are changing the goal posts, aren't you? uppityperson Aug 2013 #34

No, I'm .... Koios Aug 2013 #37

My experience has ranged from being groped to beaten and raped so don't try what you are trying to uppityperson Aug 2013 #40

... bunnies Aug 2013 #47

"consent to personal search is pretty subjective"? So "No" can mean "yes"? uppityperson Aug 2013 #42

The point I am taking away from your post is ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #10

Yes, but ... Koios Aug 2013 #13

Sexual assault, police brutality, and violation of public trust Yavin4 Aug 2013 #2

Yeah, what else can they be described as? MrSlayer Aug 2013 #3

The bottom line is NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHTS AT ALL as long as cops think pot smoking may be involved. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #7

"The fundamental conceit of the drug war is that the government owns your body and can tell you limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #39

... RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #55

COPS ARE RAPING WOMEN IN TEXAS. story below trueblue2007 Aug 2013 #11

Unless there is a ticking time bomb inside, yes. randome Aug 2013 #15

I don't like the idea of them being used for spurious reasons, but... JVS Aug 2013 #19

If you manipulate or touch my sexual parts without my permission, how is it not uppityperson Aug 2013 #23

The courts are not going to care about your feelings or your consent davidn3600 Aug 2013 #25

Because I'd have to interpret the act of searching as sexual intercourse to make it fit the statute. JVS Aug 2013 #27

Definition of sexual assault. bunnies Aug 2013 #32

Technically, doesn't it have to be Nevernose Aug 2013 #21

So if a guy does not ejacultae, it can not be rape? Is this what you are asking? uppityperson Aug 2013 #22

I think the technical definition Nevernose Aug 2013 #33

Thanks for the in depth answer. I guess my issue is that sexual assault can and is not about uppityperson Aug 2013 #38

stick your finger up someone's nose and see what the law calls it elehhhhna Aug 2013 #36

Yes they are Aerows Aug 2013 #24

Of course they are. Brigid Aug 2013 #30

Well, they are an assault. LWolf Aug 2013 #44

If they're done out in the open like those cases here in Texas, YES derby378 Aug 2013 #45

man, i knew before i opened this thread, there'd be some fool defending this shit... KG Aug 2013 #46

It gets more reich-wing every day, it seems. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #54

Damn sure is madokie Aug 2013 #48

You'd better be under arrest, in a sterile facility, and the search performed by a medical MADem Aug 2013 #51

No, 'assault' but not 'sexual' assault. elleng Aug 2013 #52

How about I just go with it sucks, it needs to stop mythology Aug 2013 #53

If some random stranger on the street did it, would it be sexual assault? RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #56