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kentuck

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6. I think many consider it a "dead end" vote...
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 05:39 PM
Aug 2013

No change from the status quo and a continuation of present policies. That is not progress.

On the other hand, if nearly half the votes went to her, more than half went to hedgehog Aug 2013 #1
And there was a large number looking for her, enter TPTB. Little Star Aug 2013 #4
I think people who have been very pleased with President Obama ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #2
Those who are pushing for Clinton obviously don't want progressive lefty voters. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #3
Did you vote for a progressive lefty in 08? If so... Little Star Aug 2013 #7
He ran as one, twice. Hillary can't even pretend. leveymg Aug 2013 #14
Yep. Just because someone runs as one doesn't mean they actually are..... Little Star Aug 2013 #25
We'll be at war with Iran within a year if HRC is Pres, if we aren't by the time she's elected. leveymg Aug 2013 #30
I really don't think she wants to start any war..... Little Star Aug 2013 #41
I can't help how I feel. And, I've come to trust my gut feelings, leveymg Aug 2013 #52
I can't tell much from that little snippet without more context. Little Star Aug 2013 #55
Iran will make Iraq look like a Sunday stroll in the park by comparison. - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #57
Did she tell you that in a dream? Walk away Aug 2013 #83
We didn't start any wars during HRC's tenure as SoS? Really, leveymg Aug 2013 #110
Iraq war resolution probably. nt Deep13 Aug 2013 #5
That! And all the "Hil will be the nom in 2016 and tough shit" posts elehhhhna Aug 2013 #101
That's it for some people Warpy Aug 2013 #154
I think many consider it a "dead end" vote... kentuck Aug 2013 #6
If you don't understand Wilms Aug 2013 #8
+1000 Hey Wilms! JimDandy Aug 2013 #150
Greetings to you too! Wilms Aug 2013 #157
No indeed. (sigh) n/t JimDandy Aug 2013 #158
And then... Wait Wut Aug 2013 #9
So we're ONLY allowed to be pissed about the GOP?....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #113
Yes. Wait Wut Aug 2013 #129
You said "God forbid that they get pissed at the GOP"... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #147
I,for one, don't want another corporate president. lob1 Aug 2013 #10
There's no big "Hair on Fire" story at the moment NoPasaran Aug 2013 #11
Three word and one picture explanation: Libya; Syria; Neocon; > leveymg Aug 2013 #12
Because we dont want "more of the same". darkangel218 Aug 2013 #13
more of the same like the Bushes. Whisp Aug 2013 #17
And Obama. nt darkangel218 Aug 2013 #22
Obama = Bush = bullshit uponit7771 Aug 2013 #69
Pretty much darkangel218 Aug 2013 #70
I have no patience for anyone who honestly CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #75
Are you saying President Obama's highly respected Secretary of State is like the Bushes? William769 Aug 2013 #38
Im saying he PO hasnt followed any of his promisses darkangel218 Aug 2013 #72
Sorry that was not directed at you it was in response to "whisp" William769 Aug 2013 #90
One of these things is not like the others. Whisp Aug 2013 #84
There's quite a "groundswell" of statements like that across the Internet. millennialmax Aug 2013 #15
Exactly. It is pure and simple rat fucking to try and suppress moderate and liberal voting in the FSogol Aug 2013 #64
Because people like to talk about stuff? leftstreet Aug 2013 #16
I don't see Hillary as centrist or as progressive. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #18
+1 Scuba Aug 2013 #26
+1 Marr Aug 2013 #29
That's the only way to get elected Link Speed Aug 2013 #35
..and all the others are happy to capitulate to the corporate and MIC shill candidate. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #44
She'a a hawk. Want more War? broiles Aug 2013 #74
+1 RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #89
'centrist' = half republican AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #156
I suspect many here still hold out hope for a Kucinich candidacy. n/t lamp_shade Aug 2013 #19
It's pretty much the last realistic chance to get that off their chests customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #20
I'll support her about as enthusiastically as I did Hubert Humphrey. leveymg Aug 2013 #24
And you saw how that turned out customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #28
Why do you think I'm so damned depressed about this? leveymg Aug 2013 #32
Would the Vietnam War customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #37
Have to think about that hypothetical. Maybe, maybe not. leveymg Aug 2013 #43
Didn't Nixon customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #86
Had Humphrey won in 1968, there's a damned good chance LBJ and the Vietnamese might have reached HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #61
I agree customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #87
Anyone who will not vote for her if she gets the nomination should be banned. But I will not... Logical Aug 2013 #21
Nah, the rules are pretty clear about that. Xithras Aug 2013 #31
...not to mention how this is going to affect the DU jury system which is already wack. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #46
yeah, freedom of speech is not a strong point around here but we are talking about a liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #62
yes if she does get the nomination there will be a lot of censorship going on. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #51
After the general election begins you can definitely be banned for not... gulliver Aug 2013 #91
They key word is "supporting" not "voting" Xithras Aug 2013 #119
well if the choice is being forced to vote for someone or be banned, I'll chose being banned. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #34
i have honestly tried to like her and quite frankly i can't dembotoz Aug 2013 #23
she racked up nearly half of the Democratic Primary votes cast DJ13 Aug 2013 #27
Yea ...he needed the lefties and progressives ...for the votes only... L0oniX Aug 2013 #47
... then backed over a few more times. GoneFishin Aug 2013 #116
people usually say why they make that statement quinnox Aug 2013 #33
I'm 100% voting for whoever the Dem nominee is. These republicans are TERRIFYING! JaneyVee Aug 2013 #36
I agree Andy823 Aug 2013 #73
They're looking for the pony & unicorn candidate.... Historic NY Aug 2013 #39
IMHO the biggest problem people here have with Hillary is not only that she is a female William769 Aug 2013 #40
But I believe that the majority of us who don't want Hillary want Elizabeth Warren, who Zorra Aug 2013 #45
+1. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #48
it's just another attempt to discredit people who don't support Hillary. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #56
We'll all be accused of sexism anyway. bunnies Aug 2013 #60
I agree that she is going to run and... Little Star Aug 2013 #50
Now that's a foaming at the mouth reply usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #98
Because we are DUers demwing Aug 2013 #42
I always vote absentee Spirochete Aug 2013 #49
I will not vote for Hillary. mick063 Aug 2013 #63
Hmm. The people claiming they won't vote for Hillary have low post counts and seem to have an Pisces Aug 2013 #66
I will not vote for Hillary and I have more posts than you. There are many on here who have liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #71
Yes, and most of those acquired their post counts trying to stir up trouble. It doesn't take a much Pisces Aug 2013 #78
you can think whatever you like about me. You may be right about the majority of democrats liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #81
I am not attacking you personally. There is a concerted effort on this board that is bought and paid Pisces Aug 2013 #125
Yes, but Andy823 Aug 2013 #67
Santorum, Romney,Bachman, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Ryan, all much, much worse. mick063 Aug 2013 #82
She voted to invade Iraq and should have known better. She has never recanted her vote and HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #53
If she becomes our 2016 nominee, I'll vote for her - but I don't want a coronation derby378 Aug 2013 #54
My biggest gripe with Hillary is her hawkishness. DCBob Aug 2013 #58
she wanted to bomb libya and then he did. so he's not quite a dove. allin99 Aug 2013 #99
If she were calling the shots we probably would have sent ground troops. DCBob Aug 2013 #123
Who else is there that can win? Redford Aug 2013 #59
Biden? Warren? The Dems have a very deep bench compared to the loonies in the HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #65
Perhaps in response to the OP's demanding we all pick a candidate NOW who is Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #68
because they are scared of her Skittles Aug 2013 #76
They don't have an alternative JoePhilly Aug 2013 #77
Most DU is out of the mainstream of the Democratic Party... Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #79
Good post Gothmog Aug 2013 #140
Excellent post. I wish I'd read it before I posted. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #145
Excellent points Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #155
Okay...here is what I think...FWIW... KoKo Aug 2013 #80
I support Hillary and I will proudly vote for her. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #85
me 2 MFM008 Aug 2013 #104
I doin't think Warren wants it. I like her and would consider voting for her if Hillary does not hrmjustin Aug 2013 #105
She vociferously voted for Bush's Iraq slaughter and for Obama's drone war. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #88
I've been wondering the same thing. GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #92
I think it's funny; Old White People are the scourge of the earth... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #93
I understand completely. bowens43 Aug 2013 #94
There's always a lot of chest-thumping burnodo Aug 2013 #95
And what happens when people don't fold? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #103
fold-in...tow the line...vote for the Dem nominee burnodo Aug 2013 #106
Nope, not always. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #108
anger at...Hillary? burnodo Aug 2013 #109
anger at all of our politicians. Anger at the fact that they have sold our freedoms and social liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #118
History usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #96
18 million+ allin99 Aug 2013 #97
Why so many posts trying to shove her down our throats LWolf Aug 2013 #100
Many reasons, maybe. NSA Spying intruding into consciousness? KoKo Aug 2013 #111
Aaahhh? Maybe because lots of people will never vote for Hillary? Coyotl Aug 2013 #102
Because Virginia Thomas is getting people to disrupt discussions everywhere Recursion Aug 2013 #107
I think about half of them jazzimov Aug 2013 #112
Of course Id vote for Clinton if she won the nomination Bradical79 Aug 2013 #114
I'll vote for who ever gets the democratic nomination madokie Aug 2013 #115
I won't reward the party for jamming a corporatist down my throat. I'll stay home. GoneFishin Aug 2013 #117
Because "Chickens for Colonel Sanders" is always stupicidal even when the other team is Tyson. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #120
She was apparently unacceptable as a candidate for more than 17 million people in 2008. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #121
It's only 2013 Union Scribe Aug 2013 #122
I'll hold my nose and vote for her if she's the only choice I have. B Calm Aug 2013 #124
Republican astroturf Renew Deal Aug 2013 #126
I am going to start voting third party until the Dems can get progressive candidates. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #127
Shooting ourselves in the the foot is inherent to the democratic party by many of the far left demosincebirth Aug 2013 #128
Hillary SamKnause Aug 2013 #130
Shortsighted people, trolls, and those easily fooled by trolls ecstatic Aug 2013 #131
^^This^^ Lisa D Aug 2013 #132
+++++ Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #146
I think I see the problem here. RC Aug 2013 #133
^^^THIS^^^ PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #136
Meh... I don't care enough Xyzse Aug 2013 #134
Because she is a RIGHT of Center (NOT Centrist) DLC Third way rep. Oh yeah she voted for Iraq War... on point Aug 2013 #135
This place is rife with malcontents. n/t Scurrilous Aug 2013 #137
How is that a problem? RC Aug 2013 #144
What's intriguing to me is that they say they fear she'll be exactly what Obama *IS*. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #138
"Too centrist" is a cute euphemism. MrSlayer Aug 2013 #139
I'll venture a guess for ya...People are sick of third-wayers, and the party can't withstand a silvershadow Aug 2013 #141
It's probably because you think DU has some real world impact, IT DOESN'T. I know this because.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #142
I would definitely vote for her loyalsister Aug 2013 #143
They're probably from people who usually vote 3rd party anyway. pnwmom Aug 2013 #148
Too centrist? Vashta Nerada Aug 2013 #149
Well, we do have a libertarian contingent aboard. MADem Aug 2013 #151
I don't understand the Mrs. Clinton hate by GOP and some Ds...the bright side is.... Sunlei Aug 2013 #152
We need real change. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #153
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