Hiroshima - quit lying to yourselves

[Yo_Mama]

105. I've got to agree

The nuclear bombs were horrible, but so was the rest of it.

The low estimate from the bombing deaths in the first few months is around 150K, the high closer to 250K. About 300K Chinese died in the Nanking massacre alone.

The losses in the Pacific war were horrific, and most of them were civilians. The estimate for China is 4 million directly dead, closer to 20 million indirectly dead. The Bengal famine of 1943 is believed to have killed at least 1.5 million civilians.
http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/C/a/Casualties.htm

Ending the war was a humanitarian triumph. If we had been forced to invade, the civilian casualties in Japan would have been much worse.

That having been said, I do think there is justification for the use of the nuclear bombs just to prevent the casualties of the Allied soldiers.

The Japanese observed no rules of war. Their atrocities are so well documented that they should need no mention. The Japanese were engaging in germ warfare in China and had even attempted a sub attack on the US in the final months of the war. Vivisection, germ warfare on civilian populations - they needed to go down, and their leadership could not be permitted to slaughter off millions more of the Japanese population.

The children of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were guilty of nothing, and the guilt of their deaths rests squarely upon the Japanese leadership of the time.

Anyone who can mourn Hiroshima and Nagasaki without factoring what happened to China, Unit 731, the diseases spread deliberately in China, and what this sub was intended to do is not my idea of an ethicist:
http://boingboing.net/2005/03/25/gigantic-wwii-japane.html

http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/unit731-part1.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-08/06/c_132606415.htm

The suffering in China is still not over, btw:
http://www.dontow.com/2009/04/japans-biological-and-chemical-warfare-in-china-during-wwii/

WWII was so hideous that we are happy and perhaps wise to forget, but we cannot forget almost everything and remember JUST the horror of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.