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ljm2002

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16. It's possible...

Tue Aug 6, 2013, 02:34 PM

Aug 2013

...but I don't think anyone can say that for certain. Greenwald is not the first person to think it or say it, but it is self-serving and pointless for him to make a statement like this IMO.

Even the Bush administration put out legitimate terror alerts. Oh sure, they were interspersed with obvious political ploys; but one would have to be foolish indeed to think that there are no legitimate terror threats out there.

But the Obama administration has not put out that many alerts. I don't think we need to be blaming them anytime they put out a terror alert. It is reasonable for our government to be aware of terror threats and threat levels. So to this statement by Greenwald, I say: Pffft.

I'm still on board with his reporting on the NSA surveillance though.

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Greenwald: Embassy Closings Looks Like A Conspiracy To Silence NSA Debate [View all] Purveyor Aug 2013 OP

He thinks it's all about him? babylonsister Aug 2013 #1

"CONSPIRACY" IS A HEADLINE INSERTION JackRiddler Aug 2013 #85

Stop being so insulting. babylonsister Aug 2013 #103

That was Raw Story's characterization, Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2013 #127

Oh stop insulting babylonsister by pointing out JackRiddler Aug 2013 #167

well you know I don't defend it and I think Greenwald is spouting nonsense cali Aug 2013 #112

And Raw Story conviniently leavves off at that... here is the rest from the original interview... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #153

Peter King is lying Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2013 #120

Greenwald kardonb Aug 2013 #136

Egomaniac conspiracy theorist. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #2

Greenwald never claimed what the headline writer at Raw Strory claims. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #52

Democracy Now headline- geek tragedy Aug 2013 #81

Note they did not use the "C" attack word. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #87

He's alleging a conspiracy between Obama, Graham, Chambliss etc to silence geek tragedy Aug 2013 #93

It's not a "conspiracy" if it's SOP. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #94

No, it's still a conspiracy even if it's SOP. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #104

Did Clapper commit perjury? Yes. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #162

the NSA didn't close embassies nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #163

geek tragedy doesn't read before posting. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #164

I read how Yemen is ramping up security all over the country. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #166

yes, they used the word conspiracy cali Aug 2013 #115

Mostly the latter. tblue Aug 2013 #91

LMAO!!!!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #176

Remember....it's all about Greenwald....ALL THE TIME Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #3

It certainly is to the defenders of authoritarianism. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #82

Damn paidpropagandiststasiauthoritariancorporatistquislingfascistsockpuppets Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #84

Exactly. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #151

Sooooo stealing this... msanthrope Aug 2013 #206

That sounds like something a Nazi would say on a credit card application! emulatorloo Aug 2013 #142

Sometimes Godwin was right. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #165

Great! Glad you see how silly you sounded emulatorloo Aug 2013 #196

Maybe so, but not given the... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #197

Let's keep him high on the pedestal like he deserves, because it's all about Greenwald Life Long Dem Aug 2013 #4

go back under your bed lest the alqaedas gets you frylock Aug 2013 #65

They'll drown you in hype- e -potomus. But go to bed and you will be better off. n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #122

Yeah, I thought Obama said al Qaeda was about finished leftstreet Aug 2013 #5

He didn't, diminished != finished uponit7771 Aug 2013 #11

So...do we go shopping or not? leftstreet Aug 2013 #13

That's right, misrepresent a quote, get caught, and keep going emulatorloo Aug 2013 #143

You're a little creepy leftstreet Aug 2013 #146

"Finished" vs "diminished" emulatorloo Aug 2013 #158

Funny leftynyc Aug 2013 #39

Is Leon Panetta a 'clown?' leftstreet Aug 2013 #41

It seems you leftynyc Aug 2013 #49

So fucking what? How hard is it to track 50-100 of them? leftstreet Aug 2013 #57

Are you being purposefully dense? leftynyc Aug 2013 #72

LOL! Duck and cover! Vermin! All over the place!! leftstreet Aug 2013 #78

You tell me leftynyc Aug 2013 #80

Greenwald seems to know what the threats are n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #83

Oh brother leftynyc Aug 2013 #96

There's no reasoning, he's obviously in love. nt tridim Aug 2013 #178

I've been there leftynyc Aug 2013 #194

the Rawstory title is not a quote David Krout Aug 2013 #6

It is so patently dishonest it is hard to believe that the headline writer is literate. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #60

how is it dishonest? A headline should reflect the story cali Aug 2013 #119

He is not saying that the terrorist threat is not real. He is saying that using that threat Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #152

He's really full of himself isn't he? n/t EC Aug 2013 #7

He is going to self-destruct before this is over. randome Aug 2013 #24

He's found his groove! KittyWampus Aug 2013 #45

OR Rex Aug 2013 #8

Greenwald knows bupkis about actual NSA international operations, MineralMan Aug 2013 #9

well please do share your wisdom on the subject frylock Aug 2013 #68

What wisdom? I do not know whether there is a MineralMan Aug 2013 #105

Et tu, MineralMan? tblue Aug 2013 #98

How do you come up with me being pro surveillance state? MineralMan Aug 2013 #108

Oh good, I'm wrong! tblue Aug 2013 #192

He's truly a cynic...and I guess I am too... joeybee12 Aug 2013 #10

it's impossible to time something so that it's not suspicious. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #12

suspicious timing and I dont believe it any longer xiamiam Aug 2013 #14

+1000 ^This Hydra Aug 2013 #18

+ another 1000, the timing on this stinks quinnox Aug 2013 #20

perhaps you'd believe it if you knew that we've conducted 4 drone strikes cali Aug 2013 #35

what so strange about 100 number 2s? Whisp Aug 2013 #44

Need to have a reason for a conspiracy... Agschmid Aug 2013 #53

Remember the Terror Threat Levels that went away tblue Aug 2013 #102

It's "#3", not "#2", and it's because we always call their operations guy "#3" Recursion Aug 2013 #109

+1000 on this! stanshch Aug 2013 #116

I agree PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #126

There are billions of dollars to be made zeemike Aug 2013 #128

Bingo. Subtract the ooga-booga words from the headlines, and the truth emerges. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #129

+10000000 We know this game. woo me with science Aug 2013 #144

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #147

Bad vaudeville has better timing. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #160

I wonder if Al Queda or other groups that don't like our policies are planting false flag cascadiance Aug 2013 #15

It's possible... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #16

Hopefully, not everyone will be cowed by "terror, terror, terror!" quinnox Aug 2013 #17

LOL millennialmax Aug 2013 #19

Did you join DU to post pretty pictures? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #22

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You too. millennialmax Aug 2013 #26

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That was uncalled for. randome Aug 2013 #30

On DU, newbies can sometimes get an "initiation" of sorts quinnox Aug 2013 #33

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When I get home... SidDithers Aug 2013 #140

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Dude, the links aren't for you... SidDithers Aug 2013 #154

Why am I not surprised? NOTHING but personal attacks from damn near Day 1 with that one Number23 Aug 2013 #173

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Sorry about that, Max. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #36

Not really "culture of intimidation", but more like an initiation quinnox Aug 2013 #38

Should I start characterizing your posting behavior? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #56

whatever floats your boat quinnox Aug 2013 #58

Some long-term posters, not "the" long-term posters. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #75

First time in years the Gungeon has looked mild, compared to this thread. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #157

I blame gun controllers for the 1994 loss of Congress after having 40 years of having a Democratic AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #161

I think they view their outlook as a lifestyle choice... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #188

where the hell did you get this bogus DU protocol? I've never even seen the poster you claim is KittyWampus Aug 2013 #54

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Does something smell again? FSogol Aug 2013 #62

Well, some of us don't bath every day. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #134

It's too American. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #174

Anytime I can get you to laugh, it pleases me quinnox Aug 2013 #71

It was pretty awesome, wasn't it...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #100

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I laughed! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #145

When someone disagrees with you, theyll point out the fact that you have few posts David Krout Aug 2013 #133

Newbie hazing is worse here than on most other message boards Quantess Aug 2013 #198

No shit lol. Thanks n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #29

I remember when Fonzie did this... Happy Days was never the same... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #21

Greenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #28

Tom Ridge LOL... warrprayer Aug 2013 #43

Seconded. n/t AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #117

vaht? vas you shaying shumthing about glen greenwald.. to meee? dionysus Aug 2013 #123

Obama. Puke Out Loud...n/t Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2013 #130

oh codswallop. more like the threat is blowback from drone killings that we've been carrying cali Aug 2013 #34

The timing is rather suspicious. Lonr Aug 2013 #37

What a narcistic, greedy fucking idiot. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #40

I'm sorry, Whisp did you say something?? Number23 Aug 2013 #175

Greenwald: Obama is trying to upstage me. ProSense Aug 2013 #42

LOL datz funneez! warrprayer Aug 2013 #46

What? ProSense Aug 2013 #55

just pointing out warrprayer Aug 2013 #59

Don't worry ProSense Aug 2013 #92

He never said what the headline claims he said. The lies, they just keep coming. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #48

Did he plagiarize Limbaugh, or did Limbaugh plagiarize him? nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #124

Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #185

Bull. Agschmid Aug 2013 #51

Wrong! That's something only a lying, spying government would do whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #63

But what about all that "CHATTER" out there? 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #64

Americans are so gullible AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #70

. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #76

The Powers That Be nt grasswire Aug 2013 #202

snap. i knew that, but thanks for the reminder. ;-) 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #205

Isn't it interesting that the first time we have had a major bush style terror warning in many years AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #67

yep.....it's interesting for sure to those of us who remember the timing. n/t KoKo Aug 2013 #73

It's super Bushy. Can the Vermillion Terror Alert warning be far behind? DirkGently Aug 2013 #97

+1 woo me with science Aug 2013 #99

I don't think so. There have been a multitude of RW inspired "scandals" ecstatic Aug 2013 #141

Rightwingers are backing the NSA. And you think it's been "ignored?" DirkGently Aug 2013 #182

Actually, they're split just like Dems are nt ecstatic Aug 2013 #189

Split with Dems favoring NSA reform, you mean. DirkGently Aug 2013 #193

Al Queda bogeymen sell more than whistle blowers. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #69

duh a2liberal Aug 2013 #74

There's "conspiracy" and there's spin. This smells like the latter. DirkGently Aug 2013 #79

These are two entirely separate issues, despite what Greenwald thinks. pnwmom Aug 2013 #86

Greenwald thinks there is nothing wrong with spying on terrorists. You'd know this if you actually Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #170

I don't care if he pays lip service to that. pnwmom Aug 2013 #172

Hey Greenwald! SCVDem Aug 2013 #88

That was my first thought. tblue Aug 2013 #89

I liked this post on HuffPo... thesquanderer Aug 2013 #90

and if? rtracey Aug 2013 #95

Yes! Obama also orchestrated Benghazi as a false flag to lay the foundation for this attack. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #101

Glenn's getting his lies from Rush Limbaugh now. baldguy Aug 2013 #110

Limbaugh the Rushbag thinks so too! Whisp Aug 2013 #111

Well, Pres. Obama is becoming more GWBish every day. It like Tom Ridge's CODE RED. nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #113

I'll give this a big fat kick libodem Aug 2013 #114

Well then Yemen must be in on it too. bunnies Aug 2013 #118

I hate summer reruns. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #121

+1 woo me with science Aug 2013 #186

Jesus Christ, Glenn Greenwald sees conspiracy in his cereal. Arkana Aug 2013 #125

But Greenwald said something so...that's evidence, right? randome Aug 2013 #156

For some people that seems to be all they need. Arkana Aug 2013 #159

Except for the pesky FACT that he never said that. It is a fabrication originating with the Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #169

Everyone except Greenwald used the word "conspiracy". Especially his opponents. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #131

Does seem rather conveniently timed, doesn't it? another_liberal Aug 2013 #132

He's right. That's what it looks like. Iggo Aug 2013 #135

Yet another thing that was widely accepted as obvious around here when Bush was president, Marr Aug 2013 #137

That's just silly. If anything, the timing couldn't be worse. ecstatic Aug 2013 #138

Greenwald is nothing like Limbaugh, and you miss the point. another_liberal Aug 2013 #155

Well, on the bright side, that's way better than Zorra Aug 2013 #139

Not a chance.. Greenwald rearing his ugly ass every 15 minutes Cha Aug 2013 #168

Yeah because shawn703 Aug 2013 #171

So this asshat wants the embassies to stay open during a immenent threat.. SummerSnow Aug 2013 #177

bravo !!!! nT Windy Aug 2013 #180

What kind of a solution to an "immenent threat" is closing dozens of our embassies? another_liberal Aug 2013 #184

And the prosecution rests. gulliver Aug 2013 #179

No, the most idiotic will continue to attack him without reason. another_liberal Aug 2013 #190

Does anything happen anywhere in the world Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #181

Booga. Booga. Color coded alert levels all over again. GoneFishin Aug 2013 #187

Immediately after CNN reports CIA opps in Benghazi night of attack. Skip Intro Aug 2013 #191

Everything looks like a conspiracy to Greenwald, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #195

Where was Glenn during the Benghazi hearings? Coyotl Aug 2013 #199

Glenn Greenwald cares about Benghazi? Quantess Aug 2013 #200

I didn't know the government was suppose to report their .. Historic NY Aug 2013 #201

Pretty much, fear is a great control tool AppleBottom Aug 2013 #203

It's only a conspiracy to those that don't understand what 2+2= AppleBottom Aug 2013 #204