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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
295. That you can compare the two
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:47 PM
Aug 2013

shows what an immature, shallow, simpleminded thinker you are. I've wasted enough time on you.

My dad was a Marine slated to be in the first wave of the invasion force. tumtum Aug 2013 #1
I forgot... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #5
Yes, my dad's life was worth more than a nation that was trying it's best tumtum Aug 2013 #14
There are no warlike people... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #23
Every one of those so called civilians were being trained to resist the invasion tumtum Aug 2013 #45
Whatever it takes for you to justify the nuclear incineration of a million people, I guess Scootaloo Aug 2013 #353
By your standard the Nazis in 1945 were defending their homeland. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #368
We're not talking about invading a country or changing a regime. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #438
If we had not removed their gov't, we would have fought them again in 20 years. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #453
They were being trained to kill invading soldiers... That just doesn't sound as blood-thirsty and Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #356
Those civilians fully supported the war effort and willingly sent their sons off to kill innocents hack89 Aug 2013 #81
Women and children are innocent bystanders, civilized people do not kill women and children Dragonfli Aug 2013 #150
Isn't it time to let someone else wear the hair shirt? nt hack89 Aug 2013 #163
Isn't it time to admit that the lives of children are worth less to you than a side order of fries? Dragonfli Aug 2013 #166
I don't believe that. nt hack89 Aug 2013 #174
You certainly appear to. /nt Dragonfli Aug 2013 #181
Calling people psychopath and sociopaths is against the TOS davidpdx Aug 2013 #352
really? Unlike our people, who didn't support our troops? NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #239
The Japanese were within their rights to attack the American mainland hack89 Aug 2013 #268
Were they within their rights to bomb Pearl Harbor? Bake Aug 2013 #289
No - that was unprovoked aggression hack89 Aug 2013 #293
Actually, it wasn't unprovoked aggression. ET Awful Aug 2013 #376
And the sanctions were in response to Japanese aggression in China hack89 Aug 2013 #381
Sure, but my analogy still stands. . . ET Awful Aug 2013 #382
So did and do we Politicalboi Aug 2013 #455
Any other way would have led to more civilian deaths hack89 Aug 2013 #459
Do you say the same about Obamas war crimes? rl6214 Aug 2013 #221
You have no idea the militarism and regimentation conditioned upon the Japanese citizens under Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #371
So, women and children were fair game. Got it. NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #442
Nanjing. Unit 731. The Japanese people supported these. Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #450
so I guess you won't bother to read my response after you grossly misinterpret my post NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #461
Your attitude that the A-bomb was wrong because it killed women and children. . .that's where Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #463
I understand your POV NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #470
sometimes when taking the high road your legs get cut off at the feet Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #471
I think Jesus said that in one of the parables: "Stop genocide by killing twice as many of them" NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #477
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #464
I get your point but if we hadnt goaded the japanese into war we wouldnt have needed to bomb them boomer55 Aug 2013 #98
"Goaded them into war"? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #130
It is much more complicated than that. There are lots of reasons to think FDR wanted the Japanese NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #241
Unless the Allied powers turned back the Axis One_Life_To_Give Aug 2013 #329
Pull out your Crystal Ball then and tell us what FDR was thinking Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #457
I like your tagline and I think it should be used in this case. boomer55 Aug 2013 #290
It's not really much more complicated than that. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #334
imagine if we had guys like these running the show during WWII... dionysus Aug 2013 #318
Hiroshima was a mistake, but DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #212
The Third Reich had been defeated months before the bombs dropped. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #299
they still killed 22 Million Chinese DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #362
The Japanese war machine did do that. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #437
Try this book. oneshooter Aug 2013 #466
I understand, better to kill thousands of women and children civilians than risk your soldier dad. Dragonfli Aug 2013 #142
Hey, you're free to think whatever you want of me. tumtum Aug 2013 #154
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #161
As I said, you're free to think whatever you want of me, tumtum Aug 2013 #167
My dad was also a Marine preparing for the invasion of Japan. Casualty estimates were high. Dollface Aug 2013 #238
"Stimson estimated that conquering Japan would cost ... five to ten million Japanese fatalities." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #417
This type of over the top rhetoric COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #190
Rejected. Your uh dad needs a better lawyer. "Is mother proud of little boy today?" n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #194
Both my father and mother are gone, but thanks for the insult. tumtum Aug 2013 #200
My Dad is 91 and a veteran of Normandy and... meaculpa2011 Aug 2013 #372
It's not a matter of one life.... cab67 Aug 2013 #211
That assumes we had to invade to end the war. Sirveri Aug 2013 #360
I'm not entirely sure that's true. cab67 Aug 2013 #365
The Japanese still had lots to defend the home islands with. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #377
Correct, the blockade was the alternative. Sirveri Aug 2013 #433
Starvation would have killed millions. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #452
So starving hundreds of thousands to death was the moral alternative to the atomic bombs? hack89 Aug 2013 #460
I don't know, because we didn't go that route. Sirveri Aug 2013 #465
As a small side note: oneshooter Aug 2013 #448
As a small side note: oneshooter Aug 2013 #449
No, but it wasn't quite that simple MJ66 Aug 2013 #217
"Murica" rl6214 Aug 2013 #219
Why would it have been better to kill more of them conventionally? n/t Gore1FL Aug 2013 #375
You don't know what you're talking about. Grins Aug 2013 #412
Same here liberal N proud Aug 2013 #35
That is still not justification for what was done Marrah_G Aug 2013 #94
Your appeal falls on deaf ears, the lives of thousands of women and children mean less Dragonfli Aug 2013 #178
The morality of any war is decided by the victors. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #205
History is what it is. Once we knew the bomb worked this "invasion force" became a bluff... hunter Aug 2013 #101
Thousands of troops weren't sent steaming toward Japan for a "bluff". Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #262
The entire military apparatus was not appraised of the situation. hunter Aug 2013 #297
"only then would U.S. troops take the Japanese mainland" Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #315
Nevertheless, Japan did surrender. hunter Aug 2013 #324
I'm sorry that isn't even plausible. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #326
Operation Downfall is not a myth and yes Virginia it would have cost may more lives davidpdx Aug 2013 #348
See this post... I agree with it. hunter Aug 2013 #357
I do realize the scale and intensity of the Manhattan project davidpdx Aug 2013 #400
False movie drama... hunter Aug 2013 #439
It was immense at the time because we had spent 5 years building it up davidpdx Aug 2013 #440
Yes, we had plans to invade Japan in a horrible battle. hunter Aug 2013 #443
I've got to agree Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #105
Well put davidpdx Aug 2013 #469
Not true. My mom was there. tblue Aug 2013 #110
Sounds more like an irrational emotional response than a cogent argument whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #122
Irrational to you, tumtum Aug 2013 #125
The Japanese were already discussing terms of surrender jberryhill Aug 2013 #131
You are badly misinformed. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #195
Nope. jeff47 Aug 2013 #305
Yup, same as my husband's father. They were warned THREE times, for fuck's sake. whathehell Aug 2013 #145
Very true BobbyBoring Aug 2013 #209
Uh, dude? You need to read your own quote more closely. Th1onein Aug 2013 #214
You're right, my dad was being sent to be in the first stage invasion too. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #218
I know my grandpa worked on one of the planes that dropped it PatrynXX Aug 2013 #244
I'm sure there's quite a few of us here who wouldn't be were it not for those bombs independentpiney Aug 2013 #301
Did you actually read the quote? Specifically sentence #2? WinkyDink Aug 2013 #339
They weren't ready to surrender until the 2nd bomb was exploded, tumtum Aug 2013 #341
EXACTLY!!! SkyDaddy7 Aug 2013 #366
Another one here beemer27 Aug 2013 #367
The A-Bombs were a message to the Soviets. rdharma Aug 2013 #476
And...we're off! Brickbat Aug 2013 #2
In more ways than one. Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #3
Vegas odds, anybody? nt MrScorpio Aug 2013 #25
Wow, 2nd response now 4th from the last of over 350 Thor_MN Aug 2013 #369
my grandfather would have been on the ships for the invasion, after they geek tragedy Aug 2013 #4
I don't have to justify anything leftynyc Aug 2013 #6
Then this post wasn't for you. Phillyindy Aug 2013 #8
Than by all means post leftynyc Aug 2013 #13
If you don't cry over Hiroshima... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #18
Because "you" say so? leftynyc Aug 2013 #42
+1000. tumtum Aug 2013 #51
+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #82
"I'll save my tears for those who didn't attack us and those families decimated by the Axis powers". whathehell Aug 2013 #153
Agreed. closeupready Aug 2013 #185
Another + 100,000. COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #196
You want to feel self righteous by having a guilt trip over it, go ahead. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #203
I think you meant to answer someone else leftynyc Aug 2013 #208
OOPS. Sorry. In long threads like this I sometimes respond to the wrong one. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #235
No Man is an Island Th1onein Aug 2013 #226
Is this satire? LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #71
Go look it up. Didn't you take history in school? Th1onein Aug 2013 #309
Irrational Revisionism... we dropped the bomb. Get over it. DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #398
As long as you won't justify the killing of my 14 relatives at pearl harbor. William769 Aug 2013 #7
Wait... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #11
Japan aligned themselves with Hitler leftynyc Aug 2013 #17
You're justifying Pearl Harbor? I call troll. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #24
I can justify... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #26
"preventative military strike" = troll nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #30
Lol, I thought I = American policy. Phillyindy Aug 2013 #39
Was the incineration of Tokyo smaller, or just not a 'terrorist act'? cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #47
And Dresden. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #128
So your idea of justifying nuclear annihilation of cities... JackRiddler Aug 2013 #364
The largest single terrorist act in human history? tumtum Aug 2013 #61
Here's what I believe... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #74
NO. tumtum Aug 2013 #78
Which fact is wrong? Bombing the hell out of Japan was meant to terrorize them. Dawgs Aug 2013 #164
How about the rape of Nanking? Over 300,000 murdered by the Japanese, tumtum Aug 2013 #175
No. Terrorism and extermination are not the same thing. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #258
Did... Lancero Aug 2013 #302
Still no. The extermination of the Jews was meant to exterminate them, not scare them. Dawgs Aug 2013 #338
The climate Lancero Aug 2013 #342
wrong spot. nt Javaman Aug 2013 #385
You're grasp of history of that time is just appalling Javaman Aug 2013 #386
The only thing that's appalling is your ability to read and comprehend. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #395
Oh what a clever retort. Javaman Aug 2013 #397
Wasn't being clever, just honest and factual. Dawgs Aug 2013 #434
Gassing the hell out of innocent people. nt William769 Aug 2013 #343
Can't be terrorized when you're already dead. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #379
Holy cow! Javaman Aug 2013 #388
No, if we wanted terror we'd have just kept with the firebombings jeff47 Aug 2013 #346
So you are really referring to the fire bombing of Tokyo 9 March 1945 hack89 Aug 2013 #96
I guess you never learned about Temujin. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #97
Hah. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #144
I love how you guys Phillyindy Aug 2013 #149
"greatest terrorist act in history"... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #156
I said single greatest... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #159
Plus, those weren't "terrorist" acts. They weren't meant to scare anyone. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #168
You really believe that the use of atomic weapons wasn't meant to scare anyone? ET Awful Aug 2013 #378
You need to learn to read. My argument is that using atomic bombs WAS meant to terrorize. Dawgs Aug 2013 #380
You need to keep your snark in check. ET Awful Aug 2013 #383
You're right. It's my fault. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #384
No? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #170
You're quite free to leave, nobody's forcing you to post here. tumtum Aug 2013 #160
Well that does explain it. Phillyindy Aug 2013 #165
Yep. Seems to ultimately be the argument by many on this topic. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #169
As opposed to yours and his arguments? tumtum Aug 2013 #180
Correct. I'm against killing anyone that's innocent. You, apparantely, are okay with it. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #259
For me it does, and that's all that matters, tumtum Aug 2013 #171
I respect your feelings... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #182
Really? We are, we don't nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #191
Really? tumtum Aug 2013 #207
Wrong Again 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #222
It seems like you can't see the difference between soldier and innocent civilian. Dawgs Aug 2013 #261
If you have civilians ready to kill you, then no, tumtum Aug 2013 #275
Finally. Why didn't you say that a long time ago. 'During wartime, killing civilians is fine.' Dawgs Aug 2013 #279
Why should it have to have been said? tumtum Aug 2013 #282
Stopping further atrocities is not terrorizing rl6214 Aug 2013 #317
You are sort of correct. Jenoch Aug 2013 #224
It was a mass killing of mostly civilians. godai Aug 2013 #403
I love this revisionist history nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #70
+1 AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #124
It wasn't even the deadliest attack in WWII, much less history. nt hack89 Aug 2013 #85
LOL, "preventative" strike. Get your terms straight. Then we'll talk. nt DevonRex Aug 2013 #257
here's a shovel, keep digging... dionysus Aug 2013 #320
+ fucking 1 Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #12
A. Fucking. Men. William769. You rock. closeupready Aug 2013 #188
Could have been different 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #9
Wahahahahaha! They'd been talking surrender for MONTHS! Th1onein Aug 2013 #248
Read the original Post from Phillyindie 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #260
Crickets 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #272
You forgot the "I'm kidding" smilie cliffordu Aug 2013 #10
Please enlightened me... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #15
I don't think you are ready to hear this but estimates are that as many as 1 million U.S. HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #29
Japanese were talking surrender Phillyindy Aug 2013 #41
There were no official or formal peace negotiations going on, I'm sorry HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #54
because talking about something is the SAME THING as doing it, right? GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #59
And while "talking surrender" they were MASSIVELY FORTIFYING Kyushu. For nothing??? Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #298
Don't bring in MacArthur. former9thward Aug 2013 #64
MacArthur was supreme Allied commander of Pacific forces. Without the decision to use HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #227
Truman was president both times. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #240
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #247
Right it was all political. former9thward Aug 2013 #312
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #328
Ike's comments were extremely political jeff47 Aug 2013 #345
No his comments were in 1945. former9thward Aug 2013 #347
Sorry, no. jeff47 Aug 2013 #393
And there were hundreds of people alive then who would know the truth. former9thward Aug 2013 #394
Because as I said above jeff47 Aug 2013 #396
The Japanese were getting ready to surrender. former9thward Aug 2013 #401
Japanese Emperor Hirohito disagrees with your revisionism. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #411
Yeah i guess Eisenhower, MacArthur were idiots. former9thward Aug 2013 #413
Hirohito was the one who did the surrendering. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #418
Except he did not surrender. former9thward Aug 2013 #424
Hirohito DID do the surrendering GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #427
Nice try at re-writing history. former9thward Aug 2013 #432
The Soviets were no threat to Japan. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #451
Silly ProfessorGAC Aug 2013 #55
I didn't realize... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #80
Hiroshima bombing yeoman6987 Aug 2013 #202
The Japanese alliance with the Nazis was sufficient for that, and it ENDED the war. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #93
No it did not end the war. former9thward Aug 2013 #314
Total war is so far removed from current human memory... SidDithers Aug 2013 #16
Funny you don't mention that the first two cities to be firebombed were William769 Aug 2013 #28
We bombed Coventry and London? zipplewrath Aug 2013 #58
Are you serious? William769 Aug 2013 #69
Are you? zipplewrath Aug 2013 #79
Because the two are related. William769 Aug 2013 #83
Ha zipplewrath Aug 2013 #99
I was trying to think of British cities too... SidDithers Aug 2013 #179
war is hell, Rape of Nanking: 1937-1938 300,000 Deaths Baclava Aug 2013 #19
Uh huh, and America's response was... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #27
What do you suppose started the US-Japan war? cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #44
The economic sanctions that led to Pearl Harbor. nt hack89 Aug 2013 #86
i've scheduled it for tomorrow's 'two minutes guilt' markiv Aug 2013 #20
I hold you personally responsible for the Battle of Gettysburg. Orrex Aug 2013 #37
and i'm holding YOU responsible for any debauchery that may or may markiv Aug 2013 #40
I was young. I needed the money. Orrex Aug 2013 #49
lol nt markiv Aug 2013 #65
Oh, is it one of the DU Street Cred Development Days again? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #21
So I guess Iraqi... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #34
Fail. Pathetic. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #38
Can't see your hypocrisy, can you. Phillyindy Aug 2013 #62
Hypocrisy? tumtum Aug 2013 #76
I'm rubber, you're glue Wednesdays Aug 2013 #118
Why are you attacking this guy? Dawgs Aug 2013 #284
Thanks to the Israelis leftynyc Aug 2013 #48
Iraq yeoman6987 Aug 2013 #215
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #267
Iraq yeoman6987 Aug 2013 #344
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #391
The "highjackers" were Arab and Saddam had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #349
Victors get to try the losers for war crimes. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #230
Himmler committed suicide when his disguise was discovered. ryan_cats Aug 2013 #414
OK. Thanks. Substitute some other high Nazi that was hanged. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #419
Not enough unfortunately. ryan_cats Aug 2013 #475
Of all the various cruelties of Imperial Japan, its enslavement of Korean women HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #66
You can look at ghosts in the rear view mirror all you want. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #22
I only wish it could have been done sooner. The Link Aug 2013 #31
Like, in 1861? Wednesdays Aug 2013 #120
A wide factual understanding of the history of strategic bombing and cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #32
really? NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #232
A successful 60+ year Godzilla franchise is all the justification I need Orrex Aug 2013 #33
Although the Godzilla film with Matthew Broderick... Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #50
That film does not exist. Orrex Aug 2013 #53
That was a crime. I ended up rooting for Godzilla, a comet, anything to kill those wretched actors! freshwest Aug 2013 #333
You must watch pacific rim nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #75
Won't get to see it on the big screen, alas Orrex Aug 2013 #103
We did...for some odd reason it was a hit in Japan nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #106
Good film? My grandsons are itching to see it, hopefully at the local drivein! Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #351
That is perfect for a drive in nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #355
Thanks nadin. They are 12 & 13, perfect for that age group then, but sounds very loud going by the Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #358
It is a tad loud nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #359
I watch the genre with the two oldest grandsons. Their reactions and comments are hysterical. Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #472
Get them the seven samurai by Kurosawa nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #473
We recently watched The Sorcerer and the White Snake, awesome film! I will hunt down Kurosawa's Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #474
You're right. War, especially war against civilians, is always immoral. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #36
Splittin' Hairs zipplewrath Aug 2013 #63
Splitting hairs???? Phillyindy Aug 2013 #68
So what were all the innocent Chinese and other Asians the Japanese butchered, tortured to death, an kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #100
No.... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #111
No idea what you're trying to leftynyc Aug 2013 #206
In total war, there are no civilians. Everyone is a target. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #255
OMG. What the fuck is "total war"? n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #264
World War Two was such a war. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #283
You sure you're in the right place? War is war. I don't give shit how big or how nice. Dawgs Aug 2013 #287
"Total war" means... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #288
And it's simply not possible to make war without civilian casualties. Orsino Aug 2013 #158
What war has never involved civilians ? lumpy Aug 2013 #304
Some truth ... Koios Aug 2013 #43
And it was the only option? Phillyindy Aug 2013 #88
No; merely the best option ... Koios Aug 2013 #119
'drop a nuke on one of Japan's many uninhabited islands as a warning' markiv Aug 2013 #46
They considered that nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #89
Very true ... plus ... Koios Aug 2013 #134
Very true nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #137
What the heck prompted this thread anyway? Skidmore Aug 2013 #52
Check your calendar Orrex Aug 2013 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #114
The bombung of Hiroshima was all about sending a message to the world, we are the World's number one JRLeft Aug 2013 #57
The Japanese were NOT talking about surrender. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #60
My father was in the Pacific during all that time and as I asked, he explained. freshwest Aug 2013 #147
Thank you, I had forgotten that interview. tumtum Aug 2013 #197
Yes they were, target New York nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #249
Factually incorrect post. The Japanese were NOTtalking surrender. TeamPooka Aug 2013 #67
Simple question then...what IS justified? brooklynite Aug 2013 #72
That is it, isn't it? I asked upthread what the OP would have had Truman HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #102
Apparently people are OK with killing innocent civilians. RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #73
Those weren't innocent civilians. tumtum Aug 2013 #87
If they were willing to have their population annihilated, why didn't they? RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #95
Right on. RebelOne Aug 2013 #126
Do you know how silly that sounds? Of course they would defend themselves against an invading liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #152
Yes they were. godai Aug 2013 #405
No, they weren't. tumtum Aug 2013 #409
If you're so convinced, why the anger? godai Aug 2013 #415
I'm not angry, tumtum Aug 2013 #420
You sound angry. godai Aug 2013 #422
Not angry, disgusted. tumtum Aug 2013 #423
So, are you just as disgusted at the Germans? godai Aug 2013 #426
So you admit that the Japanese murdered/killed/slaughtered millions of civilians? tumtum Aug 2013 #428
We were not in a 'fight for our lives and survival' on August 6, 1945. Japan had lost the war. n/t godai Aug 2013 #429
I'm talking about the totality of WWII. tumtum Aug 2013 #430
This message was self-deleted by its author godai Aug 2013 #431
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #425
Innocent civilians have been killed for as long as war has existed. We didn't start the trend. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #108
Interesting. RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #115
Innocent? 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #132
So you're guilty of Bush's war crimes? RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #140
Boy that was Predictable 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #143
So because we failed to stop Bush, the victims of his crimes RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #155
That's EXACTLY what they are saying. Dawgs Aug 2013 #157
They already think that 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #176
The Japanese were certainly OK with it nt treestar Aug 2013 #201
I just wish that we had been in a position to nuke Berlin a few years earlier. Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #84
How's that comfy armchair? Sotf Aug 2013 #90
Geez, read a few of these threads Hydra Aug 2013 #91
Welcome to the club of "Blame America First, Last and Always". MicaelS Aug 2013 #92
True Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #116
One of the many from people who were there. 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #104
So what is your point? You just cherry pick one event and think yourself a genius? Rex Aug 2013 #107
One could argue that the dropping of the bomb saved a million Japanese lives Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #109
If you discount the testimony of Smedley Butler then all is justifiable think Aug 2013 #112
Os, so it was the United States fault Japan invaded China MicaelS Aug 2013 #123
This is a quote from one of the most decorated Marines of our times think Aug 2013 #127
Yes uncalled for and I think said poster doesn't know what Rex Aug 2013 #146
US historical involvement in war is complex and mostly unknown think Aug 2013 #173
I agree, we never went in-depth into war when I was teaching Rex Aug 2013 #184
More on US Japanese relations pre WW2 think Aug 2013 #151
War Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #113
Everybody sing: "We've done it before and we will do it again" Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #117
+1,000 malaise Aug 2013 #121
Pure and ignorant ... Koios Aug 2013 #129
Whatever malaise Aug 2013 #135
Terrorism ... it was ... Koios Aug 2013 #138
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #133
Horrible thing to be sure. Justifisble? A debatable point. Thankful someone made geckosfeet Aug 2013 #136
Yes; justifiable ... Koios Aug 2013 #141
It was terrorism. Plain and simple. There is no justification for deliberetaly bombing civilians. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #139
I have never lied to myself about Hiroshima, LWolf Aug 2013 #148
yup nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2013 #162
We do not have the right to judge certain historical events perdita9 Aug 2013 #172
Wow. did I miss a meeting or something? eggplant Aug 2013 #177
No. Richardo Aug 2013 #213
I can't decide who is trolling whom. eggplant Aug 2013 #322
Happens every year at the anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. n/t godai Aug 2013 #407
I've been a member for ages, but this is the first time I've seen this level of crazy about this. eggplant Aug 2013 #410
To the people on the ground, which was worse hobbit709 Aug 2013 #183
Truman had to consider JaneFordA Aug 2013 #186
My grandfather survived the bataan death march iandhr Aug 2013 #187
Wouldn't that be like taking out a gun but not shooting to kill? treestar Aug 2013 #189
You have the use of guns confused. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #273
Agreed Mr Dixon Aug 2013 #192
C'mon Libs adicortez Aug 2013 #193
Scary that most here... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #198
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #199
Www.humanevents.com. Enjoy. Phillyindy Aug 2013 #204
Uh - no leftynyc Aug 2013 #220
I recommended that site... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #228
While I'm thoroughly disgusted by you leftynyc Aug 2013 #256
Please... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #266
For Heaven's sake leftynyc Aug 2013 #271
Lol, for someone with no guilt... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #274
Do you really think this is new? leftynyc Aug 2013 #281
Yep...American historians are... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #286
But, Iraq was different. Dawgs Aug 2013 #291
That you can compare the two leftynyc Aug 2013 #295
The only thing I compared... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #300
Yawn leftynyc Aug 2013 #316
One hardly needs... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #319
60 years later leftynyc Aug 2013 #321
In 50 years it will still be part of the record treestar Aug 2013 #332
We were dragged kicking and screaming into WWI and WWII treestar Aug 2013 #331
Far more died sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #210
IIRC, didn't the US firebombs kill lots more people? MynameisBlarney Aug 2013 #216
yes, the firebombing of Tokyo killed a lot more people NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #229
"There was mostly evil intent in all those bombings including the atomic bombings..." EX500rider Aug 2013 #306
I know it was war, and a nasty one at that. But those bombings were malicious and cruel beyond NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #444
"But those bombings were malicious and cruel beyond normal rules of war." EX500rider Aug 2013 #462
They had warning shawn703 Aug 2013 #223
What the leaflets we dropped on them said: EX500rider Aug 2013 #308
Comments here are truly... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #225
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I think we've found something treestar Aug 2013 #251
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Lol, apes with iphones Phillyindy Aug 2013 #292
No, it says far more about you. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #336
Lol, ok "Zoe is right". Haha Phillyindy Aug 2013 #337
Nobody here's thrilled to have dropped the bombs NuclearDem Aug 2013 #233
Thank you. MynameisBlarney Aug 2013 #246
No it is not. RedSpartan Aug 2013 #234
I will place my masters in history nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #236
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I prefer "aPes with iPhones." Orrex Aug 2013 #254
No one APPLAUDS them, and your use of that word excuses you from any serious conversation. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #250
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When you're trying to troll, you need to be careful jeff47 Aug 2013 #310
I'll never forget learning about LittleGirl Aug 2013 #242
Mina no tame no inori AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #243
Thank you. That is a beautiful sentiment. think Aug 2013 #269
You are welcome AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #270
Very lovely. Sometimes the innocence of children think Aug 2013 #294
I was going to ignore this post initially because it seemed kind of obvious NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #245
It's been a real... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #252
I know what you mean... there are good people here but NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #445
Side bar about your picture... GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #253
It was more about peace and not making war NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #446
So you'd choose the option that would kill 10-50M instead? jeff47 Aug 2013 #311
Thanks for posting this, Phillyindy. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #263
You may not be aware of a few things wercal Aug 2013 #265
What are your thoughts on the firebombing of Tokyo? Socal31 Aug 2013 #276
Take an enema, it will help with the backlog of your sanctimonious crap. branford Aug 2013 #277
from a wider perspective (wider even than the facts that the USSR took Manchuria in 11 DAYS MisterP Aug 2013 #280
Quarterback all you want Japan was a war culture... Historic NY Aug 2013 #285
Thank you for taking a stand for morality jimlup Aug 2013 #303
Convenient and far too simple. branford Aug 2013 #307
You are just attacking me. jimlup Aug 2013 #313
If you believe the decision to drop the bombs was simple, branford Aug 2013 #327
What the hell difference does it make if it's 1 bomb killing 100,000 people... Richardo Aug 2013 #330
Is war immoral under all circumstances? nt nyquil_man Aug 2013 #335
It's easy to... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #323
I'm not. That's the point. branford Aug 2013 #325
I don't disagree with your point, but it does demonstrate a level of naiveté that Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #340
By starting a new thread to play armchair historian you are kidding yourself davidpdx Aug 2013 #350
My only complaint all along is that they chose non military targets Warpy Aug 2013 #354
It's inarguable that innocent people died. It's also inarguable that absolutely guilty people died. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #361
So incinerating hundreds of thousands of innocent women, children and babies in Tokyo was ok? DCBob Aug 2013 #363
Nanking. . .quit lying to yourselves. Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #370
Gotta' love these 21st Century Quarterbacks - lynne Aug 2013 #373
I'm of two minds about this DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2013 #374
Thanks for the post. Funny how this debate has suffered the OJ trial phenomenon... rwsanders Aug 2013 #387
American politicians are elected to protect and save American lives. branford Aug 2013 #390
I don't see that in the constituion and that is in direct contradiction to the principals set forth rwsanders Aug 2013 #435
I believe the atomic bombing were both horrific as well as necessary and correct. branford Aug 2013 #436
I believe more in Kirk's answer to the Kobayashi Maru, always another option, but in context rwsanders Aug 2013 #441
In the 1980s I got to know a pilot who was Japanese POW in WW II Botany Aug 2013 #389
I'm **speculating** here ... not trying to justify nor to discern motive: Martin Eden Aug 2013 #392
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Funny How Mr.CT Aug 2013 #402
Oh boy, WW2 talk... iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #404
it was a terrorist act, plain and simple stupidicus Aug 2013 #406
Speaking of apologies... lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #408
Hiroshima Peace Museum godai Aug 2013 #416
We should thank Japan... ryan_cats Aug 2013 #421
war is never justified quaker bill Aug 2013 #447
Imagine how many lives would have been saved if... yawnmaster Aug 2013 #454
rec. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #456
Baloney duffyduff Aug 2013 #458
It's well-established that the Japanese were ready to surrender... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #468
Read this book. oneshooter Aug 2013 #467
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