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In reply to the discussion: Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) charges Obama with "beginning the unraveling of Social Security" [View all]Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)58. This is exactly correct
Due to slight of hand accounting tricks implemented decades ago, FICA surpluses made the deficit appear smaller than it was because they were using those surpluses in the deficit calculation. Once those surpluses are gone, the deficit will appear larger because what was being counted as revenue is no longer there. The total federal debt will also appear larger because the SS trust fund was also being used to make the total federal debt appear smaller. So even though SS payouts are effectively coming out of the trust fund, they might as well be coming out of the general fund because the deficit and the debt reporting are going to reflect those changes.
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Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) charges Obama with "beginning the unraveling of Social Security" [View all]
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
OP
It's now being funded out of general government revenues, nearly 100 billion under the latest deal
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#28
Under the bus with Harkin! He pushing right-wing talking points! Thanks for the info!
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#29
I agree with the Senator. Someone in the Senate needed to speak out on this.
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#5
How long has it been since a PENNY has fallen through the slot on the top of the SS piggy bank?
cherokeeprogressive
Feb 2012
#67
How could someone who worked for Chicago Democrats conflate Obama with Chicago Democrats?
ieoeja
Feb 2012
#73
"With this bill, we can no longer say that Social Security doesn't contribute to the deficit"
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#17
I'm embarrassed that it's being proposed by a Democratic president and a Democratic vice president
Rugnuts
Feb 2012
#43
That's right. It's never happened before .... using general tax revenues to fund SS benefits.
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#49
You should be embarrassed for thinking non-wingnuts will be stupid enough to believe this BS
Major Nikon
Feb 2012
#57
Never did I imagine a Democratic president would be the beginning the unraveling of Social Security.
unkachuck
Feb 2012
#23
But Obama has stolen an issue from the Republicans by starting the unraveling! Go team!
Karmadillo
Feb 2012
#25
"Senator Harkin seems not even to understand what the Trust Fund IS!" and you do. Of course.
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#50
How many days has it been since the last PENNY fell into the SS piggy bank?
cherokeeprogressive
Feb 2012
#68
Did any of you Obama haters wonder why Harkin is the only one claiming this?
maximusveritas
Feb 2012
#48
So why are Senators Harkin, Sanders and other liberals who voted against the bill crazy .....
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#53
Under the bus with Senators Sanders and Harkin for being anti-Obama grandstanders! Sure.
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#59
Senator Harkin is the only one saying this???? You need to do some basic research.
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#61
23 members of the "Congressional Progressive Caucus" and its only Senate member voted against it.
Better Believe It
Feb 2012
#64